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Should women be held accountable for their actions?

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Do feminists believe that women should be held accountable for their actions, or do they believe that women should just be able to do whatever they want? Equality rights with or without accountability, that is the question.

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  1. What do you mean held responsible? First of all to imply that a victim is responsible in a situation you need to be assuming that the situation they walked into was a high risk situation-meaning they knew they would more than likely become a victim in a given situation.

    I do not expect a man to be more than likely be a rapist. So going into a room with a man and having him rape me isn't my responsibility. It could happen but I could get shot walking down the street also. It shouldn't be highly likely that if you're alone with a man he will rape you but if you believe it is that shows something seriously wrong with our society. If a guy walks into a high crime area and gets shot we may say they were stupid but that doesn't mean they had responsibility-the person that shot them is still the guilty one.  


  2. Of course

    I didn't even know that people even considered women not to be accountable for their actions?

    Aren't women human to?


  3. I knew this would get some attention.

    People will say they do believe it, but when you give them a real, concrete situation, often they'll back off that view.  I gave two examples on that question.  There's more besides that.  

    Sometimes it affects women in a negative fashion.  There's the often-mentioned fact that women who sleep around are often viewed worse than men who do the same.

    I have had some really good hate mail basically for suggesting "Hey, you know, women are responsible for their actions for (fill in with some situation here)."  

    Heck, even posts on here are treated differently.  I've seen people more or less state they'll let negative posts about men go and not get offended because, and this is almost a direct quote, "There's so many sexist posts about women on here."  So, I guess that makes it right then?  And I'm tired of people accusing me (and other guys) of being sexist for stupid things, when women who say sexist things about men get protected on here by others.

    I wish this came up earlier in the day so I wasn't too tired to think very clearly, so I could write a better answer.

    My problem with feminism is it's supposed to be about treating men and women the same as much as possible, but feminists are right there with everyone else making excuses for women much of the time.

    I should say it's not that women aren't held accountable for their actions, it's just they're given a LOT of leeway in a lot of situations.  Accountability seems to be disappearing in general though, for men and women alike, but as far as I'm concerned that's a little bit different of an issue.

    Heck, there's no point in trying to reason with anybody.  The stupidity of some of the things said on here amazes me.  Actually, no it doesn't, I'm used to it at this point.  But it should amaze me.  People can't read what's typed on here, and don't want to.  They just want the woman to have all power in the situation and that's that.

    Best answers are the ones above and below mine in my opinion.  Just thought I'd throw that out there.  I don't know if they believe it for real, but I know most people don't really.

    I've managed to make a lot of people mad on here and in the football section on the same night.  I'm on a roll.

  4. Feminist's routinely say one thing but there actions clearly say that they believe women should be allowed to do as they wish with little consequences.

         Personally I think we should all be held responsible for our actions.

  5. Everyone should be held accountable for their actions not just one gender. letting anyone off without taking responsibly is not right everyone knows right from wrong. lets stop treating people like they are babies grow up and take responsibility for your actions. just my 2 cents. God Bless

    EDIT:  Yes I believe what I wrote here. is a women kills  or does any other crime then YES should be held responsible just because she is a women should not give her a " get off free "  card.

    And YES I take responsibility when I do anything. I don't blame anyone that to me is being silly. I am a adult I DO NOT need to be protected from anyone. like I said before stop treating people like they are babies. GROW UP. and act like adults. NO matter what gender you are. end of story.

  6. We ALL should be held accountable for our actions. Many times, however, women get away with a slap on the wrist if that much.

  7. yes

  8. Yes.

    In the case that you mentioned a woman does not consent to have s*x by going into someone's room or by kissing them. In that case the onus is on the rapist to be accountable for HIS actions. Do I have the right to shove objects up a man's a**s if he can't get it up in my bedroom? After all, by coming into my bedroom he consented to sexual activity.

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    Three thumbs down? There seem to be some hypocrites about.

  9. And by "do whatever they want," I suppose you mean decide for themselves whether they want to engage in s*x, or not. Yes, women who think that that should ultimately be up to them, have no accountability, right?

    And all men are potential rapists, right? They can't be expected to control themselves, women should know that they will be raped if they refuse s*x, is that what you believe?

    What if she goes to his room, with the full intention of having s*x, but in the middle of foreplay, remembers she forgot to take her pill that morning, and neither has protection? How irresponsible would it be to continue? Oh, but he's all hot and bothered now, she can't back out!!

    What if she likes him, wants to have s*x, but then in the middle of foreplay, he starts requesting things she is definitely not comfortable with? Too bad, girlie, you got yourself in that position! You are a TEASE if you back out now! And god forbid you be one of those!

    So the bottom line is that women should just wise up, realize that any man can potentially be her rapist, and never engage in casual s*x, right? Is that the summation of this? NOT that men who proceed to force a woman who said no should look forward to their rape conviction, but that women who dare to express their sexuality, and decide ultimately whether they engage in s*x or not, are getting what's coming to them.

    The ignorance and misogyny here is astounding.  

  10. We should not only be accountable, but accepting of the responsibility that comes with making the decisions we make. Sometimes things can't be helped, but that question was a tough call. That's why I didn't answer it. Sometimes there isn't a "right" answer.

    No does mean no, and if at any time a woman says that inside or outside the bedroom she should be listened to. She was stopping things before they got too far, because she decided not to have s*x. There is nothing wrong with that. Same with the guy. If he changes his mind about having s*x, then I'll stop!

    Equal rights means being accountable. That's also why I do my best not to get into situations that I might not be able to get out of, because I've unwillingly been there before.

  11. Equality rights equal equality accountability.

    Of course..

  12. We are all accountable for our actions, in one way or another, to ourselves if to no one else.

    Cheers :-)

  13. feminist are just another sub culture of something called humanity. humanity does not subscribe to the concept of accountability why should they?

    the truth is everyone IS accountable and everyone IS accountable for everything. even what they believe and except

    Equality has nothing to do with rights and rights have nothing to do with accountability. Accountability however is equality.tmm

  14. Duh. Should humans be held accountable for their actions? I believe that's why we try to create laws. Just because humans are sexist and don't create, implement, enforce, and apply laws in a non-sexist manner, does not mean that humans should not be held accountable for their actions. Plenty of men get away with murder and rape hun or don't you read the news. Jeez.  

  15. Yes, women should be and ARE held accountable for their actions.

    And when a woman commits rape, she should be held accountable for that.

    If a woman goes up to a guys room, engages in some foreplay, but then decides to not have intercourse, is she violating some trust? Is she committing some wrong? What, then, has she DONE? If the woman decides to not have intercourse, but the guy forces her anyway, is she responsible for HIS actions? Did she bring the rape upon herself, by choosing to not have s*x, for whatever reason? So he forces her, and she should just leave, and be glad it wasn't worse than it was? Or should women who go to a guy's room for a drink and maybe a *little* more decide beforehand that this guy may not take no for an answer if she changes her mind, (assume all men are rapists) and not go?

    What I'm gathering from some is that women OWE men s*x. That women do not have the right to deny s*x, do not have the right to determine what happens to their own body, once they've consented to kissing, heavy petting, foreplay. Men have a undeniable right to our bodies, and we should not think to change our mind. And that men who hear a girl say "no," and force her anyway, are merely taking what is rightfully theirs, so what's the crime? Put out or STFU, b*****s, and take it anyway. Is that about right?

  16. Of course!!!!

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