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Slaney surname/family name information? Crest/Coat of arms, motto, description, etc?

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  1. http://www.houseofnames.com/fc.asp?sId=&...

    not sure how reliable the source is


  2. You can view a picture of the Slaney coat of arms here:

    http://www.4crests.com/slaney-uk.html

  3. This is all the l  could find in connection with the name.

    Slaney Name Meaning and History

    Irish: variant of Slane.

    Hope this helps.

  4. With regard to a coat of arms, if you were entitled to one I think it most probable that you would know, families tend not to forget that they have a right to bear arms.

    In the first instance the grant of arms was made to a male head of a family, and was passed equally to each of his sons, each one of his sons added their own marks of cadency to those arms. The eldest son added a label – a horizontal strip with three pendant drops (during the lifetime of his father). The second son added a crescent,

    the third son added a five pointed star, the fourth son added a martlet, the fifth son added a annulet, the sixth a fleur de lys, the seventh a rose, the eighth a cross moline

    and the ninth a double quatrefoil, which were then displayed on their shields to distinguish themselves from each other and their father, the sons passed their arms, complete with their own cadences, on to their own sons, who then added a second set of cadences to distinguish themselves from each other, their father, uncles and cousins.

    When a man died, his eldest son then had the right to bear his father’s arms without the differentiation marks, the eldest son’s children would then add only one set of cadency marks, instead of two, and so on down the generations, the brothers of the eldest son continued to use the arms with their own cadency marks, which were later passed to their sons in the same manner, It all got very complicated.

    Daughters also inherited the right to display their father’s arms if there was no male heir, a daughter could pass her father’s arms on to her sons. Wives, widows and daughters had a courtesy right to display their husband or father’s arms, normally on a diamond lozenge.

    The original achievement remained the same through the generations, enhanced by the addition of the various cadences, however, the arms of more than one family could also be included on one shield. If both the man and his wife had the right to bear arms, they could be displayed side by side, called impalement, or if mixed together to form new arms, it was called compounding. One method was quartering, where the shield was divided into quarters, then, for example, if a man had no sons, his daughter or daughters inherited his right to the coat of arms, if one such daughter married a man who also had a coat of arms, her arms could be impaled with his, or be displayed on a

    small shield in the centre of her husbands arms, their sons would then seek permission of the Heralds to bear arms, with their father’s arms in two quarters and their mother’s

    in the other two quarters. In time the coat of arms could include the arms of many families and became very complex.

    Dating originally from before the advent of surnames, the arms were in effect a means of identification, much the same as a surname. With the establishment of surnames during the 12th. And 13th. Centuries, those families who already had the right to bear arms acquired a surname to go with their arms, and once surnames were established

    new arms were granted to people who had a surname, so it is clearly argueable as to whether or not arms are attached to surnames.

    Neither were they introduced by the Normans for taxation purposes. The Normans arrived in England some 100 or more years before the first heraldic arms or devices began to appear.

    Heraldry in Europe developed during the 12th.and 13th. centuries (1100-1200) Heraldic arms were a personal device, possibly for military purposes, or simply a display of status or vanity, it can only be guessed at because, today, no one knows the real reason. At first, arms were displayed without authority from anyone, but gradually became controlled by the Crown, through Heralds, whereby, men who could prove their ancient use of arms by their family, were granted permission to continue displaying them. Total control finally came about in the 15th.century, when Richard III

    in 1484, established what is now known as the College of Arms, who still hold the

    authority to grant or withhold the use and display of arms.

    Sources.

    Among others,

                      THE COLLEGE OF ARMS

    and

    T.Woodcock & J.M.Robinson's

                      THE OXFORD GUIDE TO HERALDRY

    Shirley T

    Perhaps you would be kind enough to show me the courtesy of actually taking the time to read my posting properly.

    You will find, if you bothered to do the proper research into the subject,  that I am in complete accordance with the principals of Heraldry regarding the granting and display of arms. You will also see that I make it crystal clear that no one has the right to display  arms that do not belong to them.

    Neither do I condone the businesses which sell ready made arms and family histories, much of what they purport to be family histories is utter bunkum.

    Also I would recommend that instead of relying soley on internet sites for your information, you obtain and read a more authoritative and in depth book on the subject of Heraldic Arms, such as the one I mention, which is a detailed study.

    emdiesse.

    The name Slaney is certainly of Irish origin, the Chief Herald of Ireland's office may be able to tell you if there is a posibility that you are entitled to bear arms, the address is :-

    Office of the Chief Herald, 2 Kildare Street, Dublin 2, Ireland

    email > info@nli.ie <

  5. Give Tebs the "best answerr."  Anyone that resents what he has posted is either, 1. they are in the pocket of coat of arms peddlers.  2.  They have one of those dinky little walnut plaques on their den wall and don't want it known that they are just displaying a coat of arms that was granted to someone with their surname and might not even be related.

    See the links below.  One is from the British College of Arms. They grant coats of arms and are the ultimate authority. Actually, you can click on the tabs at the top and find out more about coats of arms.  

    Two. The other link is from the most prestigious genealogical organization in the U. S., The National Genealogical Society.

    http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/Faq.ht...

    http://www.ngsgenealogy.org/comconsumerp...

    If this is a school assignment, go ahead and print off any that you might find on the internet from peddlers selling them like House of Names.  However, also print off the 2 links I am furnishing you and give them to your teacher.  

    House of Names has in fine print the following

    "We encourage you to study the Slaney genealogy to see if you descend from someone who bore a particular "family crest."  . . . . . . . . . No families, not even royal houses can make sound claim to the

    right to bear arms unless a proven connection is established through attested genealogical records."

    I put "family crest' in parenthesis since that is a misnomer for a coat of arms.

    Now a person might have more than one in their family tree. That doesn't mean they are entitled to any one of them.  It just means that if after doing research and they find more than one ancestor that were granted a coat of arms and if they have a book printed or even published on their family history, it is quite legitimate of them to put  pictures of their ancestors' coats of arms in their book.  However, it would not be legitimate for them to put in their book ones that just were granted to someone with the same surname.

    Any American that has any English lines going back to early colonial days in the American South will usually have a good opportunity of finding several in their family tree.  Some in the  South have the one their ancestor brought over from England 300-400 years ago. They aren't those dinky little walnut plaques either.  They, as a rule, don't display them.  They aren't any good for buying groceries and Walmart won't even take them.

  6. Here is the description from The General Armory of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. by Sir Bernard Burke. This book from 1889 is considered to be a great reference.

    Blazon: Sable a bend between three martlets or.

    Crest: A griffin's head proper winga endorsed or, beaked gold.

    Motto: Deo Duce Cornite Industria.

    Motto Translated: God is my guide, industry my companion.

    Here is the way the Blazons program draws it. It wouldn't draw the wings on the griffins head so I pasted some on - sorry I am not a good artist but you can print and use it free.: http://www.rushings.info/images/slaney1....

    The Slaney records use here refer to the descendants of: (Sir Stephen Slaney, Lord Mayor of London, 1595 and Milton Co. Stafford, grandson of Ralph Slaney of Yardley, Co. Worchester; granted 1595) - (Burke's General Armory)

    (Hatton Grange, co. Salop; Robert Aglionby Slaney, Esq., who inherited Hatton Grange upon the demise of the only daughter and heir of his uncle, Robert Slaney, Esq. of Hatton Grange.) (Burke's General Armory)

    Descendants of Col. William Slaney of Hatton Grange, Shropsh. have only the crest recorded in Fairbanks Book of Crests 1859 edition. (this book was made for jewelers and seal engravers.) Slany and Slaney of London have exactly the same Crest in this work.

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