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So does anybody here REALLY know anything about horse color genetics.?

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10 points if you answer correctly. If i want to breed a palomino mare, to a palomino stud, can I get a bay? Also what colors am I likely to get? I know the answer, do you?

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  1. It all depends if either of the palomino's have a bay gene in them, if they both do then you may end up with a bay, if only one does, its not probably going to be a bay.

    I can't tell you what other colours are possible unless both of the horses are pure palomino's annd have no other colour in their genetics, if thats the case you may end up with a double dilute like a cremello or perlino.


  2. ok a palomino has one red gene and one creme/dilute gene so if you cross two palominos you could get the following:

    sorrel/chesnut (two copies of the red gene) 25% of the time

    cremello (two copies of the creme gene) 25 % of the time

    palomino (one red and one creme gene) 50% of the time

    those are the only possible color combinations assuming the two horses are just palominos and not carrying any modifiers (like roan, grey, sabino, etc..)

  3. It depends...if the palomino stud has 100% palomino color certainty then no, you will end up with a palomino-definately.  If the palomino stud had 50% palomino color certainty then you could get palomino or the stud's dam/sire's colors or the mare's dam/sire's colors.  Any less percentage of color certainty, you are more likely to get a lucky dip.

    The palomino comes from a chestnut so the dam/sire of the stud or mare are more likely to have chestnut in them than bay so it is possible but very very unlikely that you could get a bay from breeding two palominos.

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  4. People need to read this book it will tell you what colours you will get when you breed what with what.

    http://www.amazon.com/Horse-Color-Explai...

    horse colour explaind  by Jeanette Gower

  5. Answer is no, you couldn't get a bay from a cross of 2 palominos.  Palominos are dilute forms of chestnuts, which don't carry the gene needed for black markings of bay horses.  Not sure, but I am guessing if you breed a dilute to a dilute you get a dilute (palomino) or  possibly a double dilute which could be cremello, light palomino, etc.

    Dilute form of bay is buckskin/dun.

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    danii - palominos can't have bay in their genetic makeup.  All horse colors stem from one of two base color genes.  Basically, most colors of horses are variations of either black OR chestnut.  Any horse with black points and/or black hair in its mane and tail is carrying the black gene.  Horses carrying the chestnut gene will have no black on their coats or in their manes and tails.  

    Furthermore, there are numerous other genes that act upon the black and chestnut genes to add even more variation in the way that color is expressed.  Some of the additional genes are the graying gene, the dappling gene, the white gene, and the roan gene.  These genes, and several others, can occur singly or in combination with others with the black and chestnut genes.  Colors such as buckskin, bay, and blue roan are all expressions of different genes interacting with the black gene.  Colors such as palomino, sorrel, and strawberry roan are all expressions of different genes interacting with the chestnut gene.  There are additional color genes that interact with both the black and the chestnut genes to give rise to colors; however, appaloosa spotting, white from pinto patterns, and face or leg markings, are all the result of additional genes acting separately from the base color genes.

  6. You're supposed to be asking questions here - not testing people.  Get off your "high horse".

  7. No, you can not get a bay.  In order to get a bay, you have to have a black gene from somewhere, and since palomino is redXred with a cream modifier, it ain't gonna happen.  Palomino to Palomino, you have a 25% chance of getting a red (chestnut or sorrel, depends on modifiers present, which weren't specified), 50% chance for palomino, and a 25% chance for a cremello (redXred with two cream modifiers).

  8. 50.00% -  Palomino  

    25.00% -  Cremello  

    25.00% -  Chestnut  

    Without knowing the sire and dams color and going by the 2 intended to breed.

    Now tell me how to get a brindle horse...... : )

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