So people will lose benefits if they fail to comply with back to work programs?

Question

How will this affect the number of people homeless, on the streets begging for food? Or dying from starvation?

Answer 1

Actually, that has been the law since 1996 with welfare reform.  Healthy people have to be trying to get a job and/or using their programs or they lose their welfare and its the same for unemployment payments.  You have to prove you are looking for work.  That is nothing new.

Answer 2

I can see it from both sides.

I had to claim Incap Ben for a while after a car accident and had to go through the DWP medical to get it.

As I was genuine, I had nothing to worry about and those that are genuine should not be put in fear because of a knee jerk reaction from some half wit Labour politician.

The problem arises because they want to test people and the testing can be somewhat limited - i.e. they have no knowledge of YOU as a person or what you suffer - they only see you for a period of about 30 - 45 mins. That is no way to guage someones ability or disability.

For those that are scroungers - good - stop all their benefits and make them work - they are the problem affecting the genuinely needy.

HOWEVER - the problem in this country is NOT those claiming benefit - it is the pouring away of taxpayers money to third world countries, sending soldiers to fight wars that do not really concern us and the billions of pounds that are given to EURO CRATS in Brussels that we never see again. On top of all that we have to pay for the immigrants that arrive here instead of kicking them straight back out.

Labour need to learn - look after our own before others - not the other way around.

Answer 3

It will, of course benefit, the genuinely needy enormously.

The scroungers, frauds and benefits criminals are not disadvantaging the wealthy, hard working people of the UK, they have the means to support themselves and the genuinely needy..

The social parasites who defraud the working classes out of the money they have worked for are actually depriving the weak, homeless, sick,old, infirm of money that they are legitimately entitled to. They just imitate them to take their money.

They are not making political or social statements, they are confidence tricksters who target the weak.

Answer 4

As Lady of THFC and the one below put. It will make people realise that to get on you have to work. If you are genuinly unable to then help will be given allowing the money not wasted to perhaps reduce the tax that we currently pay!

Answer 5

what people don't understand is that 2-3 million people working for their dole will in time eat into the employment section, employers will not employ workers at £6p/h they will employ people at £45 per week, talk about slave labour, maybe they should do this to the immigrants for them to get citizenship and give the British people their jobs.

Answer 6

Well if they go back to work it won't affect them at all will it - that's the whole point.  It will however affect how much money from genuine hard-working citizens wages go to more worthy places than just benefit scroungers.

Answer 7

I wonder how many people on cushy well paid jobs who are in favour of this back to work program, will be in the same mind if this credit crunch turns into a recession and they find themselves out of their good well paid jobs, and are forced into a job run by a agency, where they have compete with cheap foreign labour and have to work dam hard all day for the NMW.

I wonder?.

Answer 8

Thats great if its properly inforced - eg a fair system.  I have a friend who has never worked is now 32 and lives in her free council house with a plasma screen tv and wooden flooring, and idiots like me go out to work and work our butts off to pay a mortgage that I cant really afford....makes my blood boil!! Im all for it.  I dont think there are many people dying of starvation in the UK!!

Answer 9

Why not, if I do not comply with my work I will loose my job. To comply with a back to work programme is d**n easy.

I would suggest the people who do not comply are people who do not want to work.

Answer 10

The more I hear about an apparent socialist government the more I despair.Here we are again on Sunday Andrew Marr programme with a health minister and the Tory top boy both agreeing with one another on the need to attack our own vulnerable people and plow billions into a bottomless pit in Brussels.The usual rant you would have heard from Peter Lilley or Norman Tebbit in Thatchers era,this isn't just about incapacity but a concerted effort by the 2 main political parties to dismantle the health service and the welfare state,the UK is now a one party state!

Answer 11

I am inclined to agree with the first contributer!However hard on first glances it appears!But you see!Unfortunately!We have heard it all before!This Labour government have suddenly found out where the votes really are for them to stay in power!I shudder at the thought!And I am a former Labour voter of nearly 50Years! Where are the majority of votes!Middle England!Whom they have neglected for the ethnic minority vote!

To the questioner!It is a last ditch attempt of a dying,discredeted government trying to move the attention away from an equally discredited Prime minister  Gordon Brown and flawed poltical policies!

Answer 12

I'm unemployed but i take the logical view that this is necessary. Personally it would probably shake me into getting back into employment (even if it isn't a perfect job for me - so i also admit i may not last that long, lol). My main concern, and that of one or two people i know; is that the sick will be targeted as a political tool  - this ultimately just shows New Labour's weakness, rather than the toughness they are trying to portray. Picking on the weak and sick isn't tough at all, they are very easy targets.

Answer 13

Dude, since when did this law apply in your country ? Such a law just passed in France so I'm incredibly surprised.

Answer 14

I think you have the wrong end of the stick , there is to be be assessment of people to sort the genuine sick from those with the ability to work , and then make them work for there money the same as the rest of us . I do not understand were people think that its there right to ponce of the working population . Many i know talk about  there benefits as if its there money , and get very up tight when told its the working mans money extracted at source for the needy not the workshy and lazy.

Answer 15

They don't give a flying ***** about that it's all about numbers. What I do find disgusting is that they are picking on the weakest in our society and those are the very people they should be helping. Another vote winner for Bollack brain Brown as he has failed to notice that Glasgow east has an extremely high unemployment rate.

Answer 16

I worked in social housing until a couple of months ago, and the sheer volume of lazy tossers sitting on their arses smoking weed and swearing at their kids was just unreal. Anyone who thinks this change will only target the needy hasn't set foot on a council estate-it will kick some of the bone idle twats off their fat arses and into some semblance of work. I worked in Stockport, and the number of times I saw teenage girls who'd gotten pregnant just to get to the front of the housing list was little short of incredible-and they perpetuate that cycle of dependency on the welfare state. I don't think anyone in Britain would deny state aid to the genuinely needy, but having worked "on the front line" I am telling you now that they are outnumbered by the scroungers.

Answer 17

those that are entitled to benifit will get it. those who are not wont. dont see what the problem is, its about time we sorted it out!

Answer 18

Pretty ironic that they are bringing this in now when the Job market is depressed and more an more companies are cutting their staff numbers! It is in fact just a way of massaging the jobless statistics as usual

Answer 19

It will sort the wheat from the chaff...all those dole dossers who think we owe them a living will have to go to work, theres nothing wrong with working in Macdonalds or Tescos.

All those who genuinely cannot work for reasons like ill health may get a fairer deal.