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Some hall of fame questions? YOUR opinions count!

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1. Does 500 home runs OR 300 wins make you a lock for HOF

2. Name 5 people who SHOULD be in the HOF

3. What are your credentials for Managers and broadcasters to get in?

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  1. 300 wins bcause there are a lot of players that get 500 and its harder to get to 300 wins

    jim rice, goose gossage, mark maguire, sammy sosa, and i dont no


  2. 1. No it shouldn't. 600 is a lock and 350 wins with a reasonable amount of strikeouts.

    2. Pete Rose, Joe Jackson, Tommy John, Bert Blyleven, and Minnie Minoso.

    3. For managers, about 2,000 wins with a great winning percentage, for broadcasters, 40 years with one club and great recognition.

  3. 1.Yes they should both be locks.

    2.Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, Ken Griffey Jr., Chipper Jones, Pedro Martinez

    3. Announcers should be known by fans outside of the city they normally announce.  Managers should rank near the top in all time wins and have at least 2 world series wins.

  4. Once upon a time there were real baseball players that played in real ball parks.  There were pitchers that completed the games they started and position players that played with something more than a split finger nail.

    Hitting 500 plus home runs use to mean something way back when!  LIke the power alleys at Yankee Stadium, 457 in left center and 461 in right center, not to mention the 12 foot wall that separated the field from the bleachers.

    During the 1961 season I was just a youngster but attended many games that season.  I watched Roger Maris and Mickey Mantle hit many a fly ball in those power alleys for outs.  Needless to say that 10 to 20 additional home runs could have been added to their totals just that one season.  What I'm getting at is that with todays smaller ball parks you never see those dimentions.  500 home runs certainly is not what it use to be as witnessed by the number of average talented players that are achieving that total.  I don't think that 500 home runs is a lock for the HOF, at least not anymore.

    300 wins as a pitcher is still valid although as I stated before, most don't complete the games they start.  Unfortunately most have become "five inning wonders" which should not count as heavily as one who will go nine for the win.

    Five players who I believe should have been elected into the HOF a long time ago are:

    Gil Hodges

    Dwight "Dewey" Evans

    Jim Rice

    Don Mattingly

    Dave Parker

    As far as managers and broadcasters are concerned, guys like Bobby Cox, Joe Torre, Tony LaRussa who have great success, and with more that 2000 career wins must be given consideration.  I believe all three will be elected to Cooperstown.

    Broadcasters like Harry Kalas, Vin Scully, Ernie Harwell, just to name three are perfect examples of what it takes to be HOFer's.  All three are already in the hall and well deserved.  There are others but the point is those who have been with a franchise for many decades and have had generations of fans listening to every pitch are the ones who belong in the hall.  They create the soundtrack of our lives!

  5. 1. All of this is assuming they didn't take steroids or other things that violate the game's rules. I think they should look again at 500 HRs being an automatic into the HOF. There are some people who may hit 500 HRs that didn't hit for much of an average at all, didn't come through in other clutch situations, was awful in the postseason (if they reached it). I don't think those type of people should get in just because they have 500 HRs. That's easier to do seemingly than it once was. 300 wins should make you a lock. That is extremely difficult to do. That means that you were at least keeping your team in it (all a pitcher can do) a whole lot. I think 300 wins should be a lock.

    2. Bert Blyleven, Andre Dawson, Dale Murphy, Tim Raines, Skip Caray (you didn't say just players)

    3. Managers - A great winning percentage. All-time wins. Maybe they turned their organization around and took them from worst to first and then continued to win with them (Bobby Cox basically excels in all of those categories). Those are all things they should look at.

    Broadcasters - If they are legends. Harry Caray, Skip Caray, the guy from the Yankees (I don't know his name, but everybody knows his voice), Dave Niehaus, Pete Van Wieren...people like that. Everyone knows who these people are, and they have been calling the games for fans of a certain team for a long time.

  6. 300 wins will be more important for the long haul, 300 wins is a dying breed right now and only the truly special do that! 500 home runs is getting cheapened at this point!

    Bert Blyleven, Roger Maris, Gil Hodges, Dave Steib, Jack Morris

    Credentials for Managers would be winning percentage or for turning teams around, if you get a Manager that turns multiple franchises around from perennial losers to consistent winners then he deserves to go for sure, he also has to have some longevity, no flash in the pan Managers get my support.

    As far as announcers, Longevity and being a recognizable voice, some one that when you hear the voice you name the team...Vin Scully, Dodgers, Harry Kalas Phillies...that type of thing!


  7. No 500 home runs cause Adam Dunn might end up with 500 home runs and he is not a hall of famer

    Now 300 wins yes that should make you a lock it is much harder to win 300 because the playing span of a pitcher is much shorter then a hitter

    This is soo obvious

    GEORGE STEINBRENNER

    he should be in the hall of fame because he made teams have to spend money to keep up with the yankees

    bernie williams i just want him in the hall of fame

    3. you have to be a legend like everybody knows you

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  8. 1. 300 Wins. 500 HRs is nice, but the steroid era is bringing us plenty of those, most not deserving of the Hall.

    2. Glavine, Maddux, Griffey Jr., Frank Thomas, Pudge  (if you mean current)

    All time? Bert Blyleven. Roberto Alomar. Rickey Henderson. Barry Larkin. Jim Rice. Bill Buckner too, one bad play can't keep him out.

    3. Manager: At least one Manager of the Year award. Winning percentage over .525. at least 1700 wins.

    ...Broadcaster: Known around league for outstanding playcalling and/or is entertaining. Long broadcasting tenure. 30+ years.

  9. I don't believe in stat locks personally. I think you just look at individual cases. Like someone above said, Adam Dunn could quite possible hit 500. Should that dude be in?

    Jim Rice, Pete Rose, Joe Jackson, Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa

    I think it's the test of saying the name out loud and if it's an instantaneous yes or not. Broadcasters especially.

  10. 1. 600 and 350.

    2. Future ones (possibly): Manny, Griffey Jr., Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz

    3. Managers: Big name manager who had pretty good success

    Broadcasters: Many years in the booth, spent most part (at least) of career w/ one team, impact on the fans

  11. 1. No and Yes..500 HRs is not a guaranteed mark anymore, many guys have had 500 HR careers but have not done much else (especially the guys under fire: Sheffield, Maguire, Sosa). BUT i think 300 Wins is  becoming a HOF lock mark. Very few starters are going to those sorts of numbers now. The starter role is being defined by 6 INN, not as many as you can go. I hear broadcasters and reporters saying that 250 Wins is  enough to get HOF votes, so 300 is deffinitly a mark now.

    2. 5 people who are retired and should be in

    Rickey Henderson

    Jim Rice

    Pete Rose (idc about the gambling i think his numbers speak for themselves)

    Andre Dawson

    Ron Guidry

    3. Managers need to have a career winning record, at least one Championship Series and at least one World Series appearance, and they must have turned a team around at some point, even if the depression of a team began with them there

    Broadcasters are tough--at leat 30 years of broadcasting. Calling historic games, and being revered by other media members is also key  

  12. 1. not a lock

    2. idk

    3. idk

  13. 1. I think 300 wins is a lock, not necessarily the 500HRs anymore.

    2. Bert Blyleven, Lee Smith, Dale Murphy, Don Mattingly, Tim Raines

    3. Games won, pennants won and time with a team for managers. For broadcasters it's their tenure with a team and the impact on fans.

  14. 1. 500 home runs has meant a lock up to this point, but in this era, a lot of people are on pace to reach that milestone, so we'll have to wait. 300 wins makes you a lock.

    2. Marvin Miller, Bert Blyleven, Lee Smith, George Steinbrenner, Ricky Henderson next year.

    3. Managers should be in the business a long time, get their team to the postseason frequently, and have great success in the postseason. Broadcasters should be really well known in their field for about 40 years or so.

  15. 1. 500 HR used to be a lock and I think it will again in the future but for players that played in the 90's it's not necessarily a lock.  300 wins should be a lock because it's even more difficult to achieve that in today's game.

    2. Elligible players only: Bert Blyleven, Andre Dawson, Jim Rice, Lee Smith and Tim Raines

    3. Managers should have multiple W.S. championships, at least 20 years managing, and a winning PCT over .550.  For broadcasters, maybe a 30 or 40 year career.

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