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Someone that I know lost all parental rights to her 4 daughters. She's not allowed to call or contact them in

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any way. Her sister is trying to adopt them, but isn't that strange? She could go visit the kids whenever she wants if her sister has the kids & she is not supposed to have contact w/ them.

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  1. if there is a no contact order then she is not allowed to see the kids even at her sisters. They could arrest her for violating the order and they could take the kids from the sister and not allow her contact either.


  2. What ? Can you elaborate ?

    And exactly what is the Question ?

  3. No.. that happens a lot..

    they try to keep the kids in the family if at all possible..

    so they don't get lost in the system..

    Usually the parents can't have any contact with the kids.. and the sister can get in trouble if she does take them and allows the sister to see them.. ..( she must be a unfit mother..)?

    I think this is what u are looking for..??

    good luck

  4. theres probably a good reason. i dont feel sorry for her.

  5. No she can't if the state finds out then they will take them from her.

  6. She may only be allowed to visit with someone from the children's services there,otherwise they are both breaking the rules and the kids may end up in a non relative foster-care.Depends on what the courts decide,the other sister who is trying to get custody or foster-care will be thoroughly investigated and anyone who puts their name to it as well.

    The kids are number 1 here and thats all that matters,cheers :)

  7. They will proberbly only let her sister adopt them if she agrees that their mother isn't allowed to see them. she will proberbly have to sign some sorrt of agreement.

  8. Most of the time if a parent is banned completely form seeing their kids it not for some small thing.  You said she is trying to adopt them she might not be successfully even more if this allows the mother unlimited access to them. The mother lost her rights to seeing them for some reason. I also imagine that if the sister did adopt them and allow them to see her sister that she could possible lose the kids going against a court order.  Then they’d be placed in Foster Care.  So no most likely she would not be able to go visit them unless she wants to risk them being placed in Foster Care.

  9. We have two kids with us who are under a similiar order.  The reason they are not to speak is that there is a pending case and upcoming court date where the children will be called to testify.  The fear is that the parent will influence the kids or talk them into changing their testimony.  After the court date they will be allowed visits and calls.  In our case, too, the kids are not ready to see the parent and have clearly expressed this.

    Your friend should not mess with the order.  It will only make her look irresponsible.  She should call the social worker on the case and ask when and how visits and calls will be allowed.  There very well may be more to the story than she knows or is telling you.

  10. One of my Aunts adopted her sons children...  Her son and his wife had lost parental rights.... My aunt allowed her son to visit--and the state took the grandchildren back into foster care because my aunt allowed her son to have contact....

    If there is a safety concern or contact isn't outlined in advance or the family member assumes that adopting the children just means keeping them for their parents that state will either not placed the children with the family member or will take them back into care if the children's safety is not the Primary Concern.

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  11. It is strange yes, but the courts do try to keep the children in 'the family' so to speak, whenever possible. Even if the sister is successful, if Children's Services and the Courts decide the biological Mother is NOT to have any contact..then the order will be a condition of either foster or adoptive care. Now to my limited knowledge, such an order is ONLY made when there is a legitimate fear of harm being done to the children by the person so ordered.

    At some point, the biological mother may petition the Court to reopen the case and grant a new hearing, but if the children have been adopted legally and fully, then she would only be allowed contact as the new parents see fit. She would have to be able to prove to the satisfaction of all parties involved that she is no danger to the children, either physically or emotionally. It is a tricky situation, but the bottom line is, right or wrong, it is the children the Courts are trying to protect.

  12. No, the authorities often take away children from bad parents.

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