Stout family Crest?

Question

I am looking up some information about my family and my grandfathers side of the family has a family crest. it also has some words on the bottom and i dont know what they mean. i think it is latin but i am not sure. i was hopeing someone could tell me what they say.

Sans C u m (there is a space between so you can see the word) Rege

any idea on want it says or where i can find out? any help is appreicated Thanks again

Answer 1

Amber,if what your grandfather has is a coat of arms passed down to him from his father, and then his grandfather and then great greatgrandfather and so on down the line that was granted to your ancestor by the College of Arms , what you have is probably, no doubt a valid coat of arms.  However, if it mounted on a walnut plaque or in a picture frame then while it might be valid, it might not belong to your grandfather at all.  I don't mean to offend; it  is just that there is a lot of chicanery in the surname product business.   We get questions about "familycrest" all the time and most people think just because a peddler of surname products is selling one with their name underneath it, it belong to them.    Actually, in the American South, there are people who have the one there ancestor brought over from England 300-400 years ago. Most people who have English ancestors going back to early colonial days in the South have more than one if their family tree. That doesn't mean they are entitled to any one of them.

                There is no such thing as a family crest.  A crest is part of a coat of arms. Coats of arms do not belong to surnames.  They were and are granted to individual men and are passed down through the direct legitimate male line of descent.  Sometimes a female will inherit one if there is no male to inherit.  Only the oldest son inherits his father's coat of arms and it goes down from oldest son to oldest son. The other sons are entitled to one with some differences. This, itself means there can be many men named Stout entitled to a coat of arms.

Another thing, there might have been more than one man named Stout, not all necessarily related, there were each granted their own coat of arms, all different. Then some men named Stout never had an ancestor that were granted a coat of arms and therefore are not entitled to one. Most people don't.

No on peddler that sells them on the internet, at shopping malls, at airports, in magazines, solicit by mail, will have all of them.  They don't need to in order to sell to people. The only time they will have more than one is if more than one man with the same surname from different national origins were granted one. Then they will have one of each and there might have been others.

See the links, I am furnishing you under sources.  ONe is from the British College of Arms(they grant coats of arms and are the ultimate authority).  The other is from the most prestigious genealogical organization in the U.S., The National Genealogical Society.

If I remember correctly, c.u.m is Latin for with.  Rege  probably applies to the crown.

I had to use dots as apparently the Yahoo filters not allow it to go through but it is a valid Latin word that has nothing do with anything considered p**n.