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Suicidal people....?

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Many people will call a hotline when they are suicidal, what is the point of that, do they want sympathy? Is it wrong for wanting sympathy?

What do you suppose is a good reason to kill yourself, outside of being in horrible physical pain where death is the only cure to kill the pain

And is it wrong to want sympathy for being suicidal, should people man up and get over their problems, do you consider people who say they are suicidal babies?

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  1. Well in this case, sympathy is just wrong. In my view, sympathy means 'yeah I hear you, but I don't really care'.

    Empathy is I can hurt with you, cry with you and the old one 'walk a mile in my shoes'.

    The worst hurts are the ones that people don't see, the ones that don't heal. Killing yourself because you think nobody is there for you is very common. That's why the hotlines work. The counsellors are driven people. They may not know the people they speak with, but because of their own natures they will always care - everybody is precious with so much to give that the person they are speaking with just hasn't found yet.

    There is no man up. It's a television stronghold that people are sucked in to believing. Even a person who never can say a thing because of the fear of leaving themselves open to ridicule,gets so much from the healing power of holding a hand or a hug in friendship. It works in the tough times within families and  is better than any man-made medicine.

    Cheers ;)


  2. When somebody is depressed enough that they call a suicide hotline, they most likely do not want somebodies sympathy...they want a reason to live, they want to be able to help themselves before its too late. I dont think there is EVER an excuse to kill yourself, its a sin, and its the most selfish thing you could ever do. I don't think people who are severely depressed are babies, no. They just need help, and they need to face the problems that everybody deals with, its a part of life.

  3. I think people call so that someone will listen. The person feels helpless and wants an ear.

    It's not wrong to want sympathy, ever... especailly if it's something that involves feeling unable to speak and be heard. The problem comes when someone threatens, publically, MANY times to kill themselves. There are alot of people out there who live in silent pain...  

  4. I don't think people "want"  sympathy. I think they NEED understanding. A hotline is for people who feel they have no reason to live but they don't really want to kill themselves. It is for those who feel hopeless and helpless. There is no good reason to kill yourself. I do understand that sometimes it feels that is the only thing you could possibly do, but it's not worth it. There's nothing wrong with needing people to talk to to help you realize life is worth living.

  5. There is a broad spectrum among people who contemplate suicide. Just as their reasons and motivations will vary from person to person, so the actual willpower and sincerity will also vary.

    Some never really intend to kill themselves, but do get depressed and can't think of anything else.  Some are on the borderline and a little push one way or the other can make the difference.  For these two groups, talking to someone else may or may not help.

    Given that every day many people do actually succeed in killing themselves, most of whom (?) never called a suicide hotline, one can conclude that those who are really bent on doing it will do it and will not talk to anyone else about it, to avoid having their mind changed.

  6. I think the point of calling a suicidal hot line, is simply a last resort. I don't think it's wrong for wanting sympathy, because if you want it, you obviously are lacking something within yourself. Everyone needs a boost from time to time, and if people only get upset when you come to them as a last resort (in need of sympathy or anything else) than it's just as selfish for you not to give it to them, as it is for them to ask for it. I don't think there is any good reason to kill yourself, but everyone is different, and one person's hard time is another person's horrible time, so suicide is only a measure of where things have gone. Also, there are those that definitely do take advantage of the fact that others give them sympathy, but just because they do, does not mean that the idea should be thrown out the window for everyone. Some need it more than others, and put it to good use. It is not for us to say how far they should be able to go with our care.

  7. You should not pick on suicidal people, unless you are one yourself.

  8. The vast majority of people who attempt suicide fail because they do not meant to kill themselves. They believe they are suicidal, but in fact they are desperate for help and either think they don't deserve it or think no one will care enough to help unless they think their life is in the balance. Often they are right, sadly, we live in a selfish society and most of us are very poor listerners.

    This being said, I believe a person has a right to take their own life. But most that I have known who ha succeeded were throwing away a million opportunities over one sour situation or experience. Especially when we are young (under 22 when our judgement center in our brain has not fully formed yet,)  we tend to see one problem globally as if life were no good because of it.

    Feeling suicidal is a serious matter and ought to be addressed by those you reveal it to. It is not wrong to need help, and feeling like people are put out because of your feelings should never stop you from expressing them. People are by nature self-serving, but they will often rally around a person in need and perform great feats of compassion and love. "Manning Up" and getting over it is just supressing your feelings which means they are more of a mess to clean up later. That may be the kind of situation that brings one to considering suicide.

    I personally am unable to kill myself. I believe in an all-powerful God and predestination, so if God wanted me to kill myself, it would happen and if he doesn't nothing I can do would end my life. I am regretably in God's hands. I hope you find the help you need without having to harm yourself.

  9. i think the point of hotlines is to prevent you from doing something you regret.

    Not sympathy.

  10. Suicidal thoughts can be caused by depression sometimes due to chemical imbalances in your body; even though you may generally be an optimistic person. Reasonable people who know such thoughts aren't like them, but are on the brink of killing themselves because, may just need some encouragement to get through hard times.

    The purpose of a suicide hot lines isn't to give someone sympathy for their problems (unless that's what it takes), but to give advice and encouragement to the person. Maybe even just to be a friend.

    I personally don't believe there is any good reason to destroy your life, but i can sympathize with ones who feel overwhelmed by the things happening in their life.

    Some may just be tired of living and not see a light at the end of their tunnel.

    Others may feel like their life is worthless due to how others make them feel, this could include people even in their own family.

    Whatever the reason they are suicidal, no one should ever judge them or tell them to 'man up', because no one knows exactly what they are going through.


  11. This question is not easily answered in a brief space like this. Schizophrenics will kill themselves just to end the chaos. Many people with bi-polar disorder may be consumed with suicidal thoughts, but might want to be talked out of them.

    People's attitudes about suicide are formed by culture. In Japan, it is still honorable to kill yourself if you bring shame upon your family. It is considered the noble thing to do. Romans felt the same way. They would also kill themselves to spare themselves the shame of being a captive (possibly sold as a slave).

    No, it's not wrong for people to want sympathy for being suicidal. It is wrong to use the threat of it continuously to get sympathy. Society tires of such people fairly quickly.

    As for people "manning up" to get over their problems, dream on.

    You can face your problems with courage, but the urge to commit suicide can become chronic and very difficult to shake without treatment.  

  12. ...to stop the suicide and help the individual...

    ...individual preference...

    ...suicidal people need to vent more vice a selfish reason of hurting others...

  13. basically its just a call for help my dad committed suicide after battling alcoholism for years most of the time its a disease and the people aren't really in there frame of mind to know what there doing/
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