Sunni or s**+'a? What's what?

Question

can someone give me a BASIC idea of the division? i dont want a huge lecture or any website references. just a few key points.

also, which is the better sect? which one is true to the prophet's (pbuh) teachings and allah's word? im not sure but iv heard s**+'as are more in to ahl-e-bait and follow imam ali (ra)'s example and imam hussain (ra) too.

please tell me, which is the way? im not extreme conservative, yet im not too liberal. i want to stick to basic laws and not unauthentic things. please help.

Answer 1

Bani Ummay plots, and Allah is a better plotter and planer then all, they are still plotting, and Bani Ummay still leads Muslims today, the same blood line of Abu Syfian. Why do you think Islam fell from grace, and we have become divided, because we did not follow Allah's order, but it is not the end Al-Mahdi will come and fill the world with Justice after it has been filled with injustice and evil.

No Pro active, it is religious not politics, that is not why Imam Hussain sacrificed his life, for politics. Read up my boy, that is what they want you to think. Imam Hussain died, because he wanted to implement the True Sunnah of his Grandfather Muhammad (pbuh), after Muawiya and Yazid has made a mockery of it, and hamdillillah when he died Muslims realized there mistake and rose up against the tyranny of Bani Ummay, and in 20 years they were wiped out from ever becoming leaders or caliphas

All these that paste pages from al Kafi are lieing, let them post a scanned pic of the page, they never will, cause it does not exist.

Answer 2

with all honesty it really comes down to politics, but the sunni and shia war has been going on for over a 1000 years, its has become a religous war...anyways u will get hatful answers from both sides, this is by far the worst place to get an answer for this particular question, cause everyone just speaks out of hate, not knowledge

@asker: both is the true path to heaven, both are Muslims, both believe in the same message, the same Quran, the same God, the same Prophet, it all comes down to ur deeds and what u have done

Answer 3

Sunni (muslims ) follow Quran ,Hadith and Ijmah (companion of prophet (saw) )

Shias says all the sahabaa turned back to Kufr (except three)

So poor shias has no authentic source thats why they got deviated

and invent many things which r far from Islam

Answer 4

there is a huge difference  i tell u basic

shia

they are against all Khalifa  except ali (RA)

and they abuse them  they are the one who kill their imam after killing them they realized that we do sin and till that time to and till akira they beat them self  and believe that they only go to heaven h**l is not made for us

but Sunni respect all kalifa    

Answer 5

im having a similar conflict. one of my parent is s**+'a, the other is sunni and im so confused by their differences and what is the right path and which is the one that respects all religious figures. i hope to find out soon

Answer 6

Sh'ia believe Ali should have been Khalifah after the death of Muhammad SAWS

That is the core of the division.

Answer 7

Very simple Answer

The sunnis Are following The Killer and enemies of Ahli bayt muhammad (saww)..

But the shia's are following the 12 imam's which they are the grandson of holy prophet muhammad.

Sunni is not islam

Sunni is bidah

Sunni is anti islam

Answer 8

In short the Shee'ah split and went into extremes with regards to Ahlul Bayt to the point where they entered into Shirk with them.

Ibn Hajar al-Haythamee mentioned in his Majma’ az-Zawaa’id (10/22) the narration of Ibn ‘Abbaas which was reported by at-Tabaraanee with a Hasan chain of narration that the Messenger of Allaah (صلى الله عليه وسلم) said:

يا علي سيكون في أمتي قوم ينتحلون حب أهل البيت، لهم نبز يسمون الرافضة، قاتلوهم فإنهم مشركون

((O ‘Alee, there will be in my Ummah a group of people who will go beyond bounds in love of my family, they will have an insulting name, they will be known as the Raafidah. Fight them, for they are polytheists))

و روى ابو القاسم البغوي عن علي رضي الله عنه قال: يخرج في أخر الزمان قوم لهم نبز (أي لقب ) يقال لهم الرافضة يعرفون به، و ينتحلون شيعتنا و ليسوا من شيعتنا، و آية ذلك أنهم يشتمون أبا بكر و عمر أينما أدركتموهم فاقتلوهم فأنهم مشركون

And Abul Qaasim al-Baghawee reported from ‘Alee (رضي الله عنه) that he said: ((A group will arise in the last times, they will have a nickname (an insulting name), they will be known as the “Raafidhah” (rejectors) and they will be known by it. They will say that they are our “shee’ah” (our group) but they are not from our group. And the signs of that is that they will insult Abaa Bakr and ‘Umar, where ever you find them, then kill them for they are mushrikoon (polytheists)))

Answer 9

The people of Sunnah (prophetic guidance) are Sunnis. They don't believe that the companions of the Prophet are disbelievers (but they follow their way instead - the 3 best generations of Islam [salaf] - those who followed the Prophet sincerely), they respect them highly.

They also love the family of the Prophet and don't say evil about the Prophets wives (the s**+'a say that some wives are disbelievers which is really evil to say).

Here's a basic, yet interesting site to get some good info from on this issue :)

Answer 10

the problem is that shias say that Ali(ra) should be the 1st khalifa , since he is chosen by ALLAH(swt) , and sunni say Abubakr(ra) coz the majority chose him

there is no verse say that Ali(ra) is the 1st lhalifa, while there is a verse saying that people should discuss about that (election)

here the verse from QURAN

"و امرهم شورى بينهم"

Answer 11

you tell me is That Islam ??

btw both are totally different religion

Islam is not shiaism

shiaism is not Islam

and you are free to follow what you want but don't mix them up !

The Creed of s**+'a from Their Own Sources

Allah

1.) He has the Quality of 'Badaa'.

2.) This means he forgets.

3.) He makes mistakes.

4.) He plans but this does not take effect.

5.) He does not know who to appoint as the next message conveyor, the next Imaam.

6.) "We (shias) do not worship such a god who gives authority to rascals like Yazid, Mu'awiyyah and Uthmaan."

7.) They say "Ali says.....I am the first and I am the last. I am the manifest and I am the hidden and I am the heir of earth."

8.) Shias say that the Imaams are the face of Allaah,

9.) The eyes of Allaah among his creation.

10.) The tongue of Allaah among his creation.

References :

(1.) Usul Kafi- Babul bad'aa - Al- Kafi Vol- 1 -P283 India Ed. ( 2.) Ibid (3.) Ibid .(4.) Ibid. (5.) Ibid. (6.) Kashful Asraar - 107 - Khomeni.. (7.) Rijaal Kashsi . 138. India Print. (8.) Usul- e-Kaafi -83. (9.) Ibid. 10.) Ibid.

New Kalimah (testimony of faith)

1.) Laa ilaaha illaahu Muhammadur Rasulullaah -Alli waliyullah, Khomeni Hujjatulillaah

2.) Laa Illaaha Muhammdur - Rasulullah, Ali waliyullah wazi Rasulullah was Khalifauhu bila Faslein"

3.) - Shia 'Islaam' based on 5 pillars - Salaat, Zakaat, Fasting, Hajj, Wilaayat.

4.) - Azaan is "Ash Hadu Anna - alian Waliullah Wasu Rasulullah was Khalifatu hu bila faslrin"

References:

(1.) Wahdat Islaami - June 84 P1- monthly Iranian Goverment. Periodical. (2.) Ali Waliullah - Abdul Kareem Mushtaq. (3.) Usul- Kafi. 4.) Listen in Arafaat.

Imaamology

1.) They believe in 12 Imaams after Rasulullaah .

2.) First being Ali (R.A).

3.) Last being the 12th Imaam

4.) Who is in a Cave 'Surra - Man- Raa'.

5.) Imaams they believe are Masoom- innocent.

6.) They can make Halaal- Haraam and Haraam - Halaal .

7.) They can change Deen- Sharia.

8.) They are born of their mothers thighs.

9.) They have the knowledge of the Unseen.

10.) They say Imaams are higher in status than the Ambiyaa including our Nabi.

11.) No concession regarding Wilaayah- (absolute necessary belief).

12.) If one does not accept Imaams then one is a Kaafir.

References:

(1.) Usul -e - Kafi. (2.) Usul -e - Kafi. (3.) Usul -e - Kafi. (4.) Usul -e - Kafi. (5.) Usul -e - Kafi Vol 1 P225 / Kafi - Kitaabul Hujjuah. (6.) Usul -e - Kafi Vol 1 P225. (7.) Ibid. (8.) Ibid /Haqqul Yaqeen P126.(9.) Usul -e - Kafi Vol 1 P225. (10.) Ibid / Al Hukumatul - Islaamiyaa - 52 Khomeni. Hayaatul Qutoob Vol 3, P10 /Ibid Vol 2. P787. Footnote. (11.) Usul -e- Kafi Vol 2. P278. (12.) Usul -e- Kafi Vol 1. P225.

The 12th Imaam

1.) When he comes he will bring the original Quraan.

2.) He is in hiding, in a cave.

3.) He is alive observing the world, in totallity.

4.) When he comes, he will be naked. Rasulullaah will swear Allegiance to him. (Allaah protect us).

5.) He will first dig the grave of Abu Bakr (R.A) and Umar (R.A),then hang them on a stake - for all sins of mankind.

6.) He will remove the body of Ayesha (R.A) and implement the same punished for Zina.

7.) He will then kill the Sunni Scholars.

8.) Punish the Muslim Ummuah.

9.) First kill Ahle - Sunnah, then Ulama, then Kuffar.

References:

(1.) Usul-e- Kafi. (2.) Islaamic Goverment P42/ Usul -e- Kafi P340. (3.) Hukumatal Islaamia -P52. (4.) Haqqul Yaqeen 2/227- 2/347. (5.) Haqqul Yaqeen P 361/2. (6.) Also Vol 2 P 611/ Haqqul Yaqeen - P 347/ Mullah Baqir Majlisi. (7.) Furoo Kafi - Kitaabul Raudah - P 527 also Tafseer Majmanul Bayan/ Hayaatul Qulub Vol2 P 611. (8.) Hayaatul Qulub Vol2 P 611.( 9.) Haqqul Yaqeen- Vol 2. P 527 ASlo Maj Manul Bayaan.

Qur'aan

1.) Not Completed.

2.) Has 17,000 Aayats.

3.) Our's has 6,666.

4.) Abu Bakr's opposed the text of the Quraan.

5.) Original Quraan with 12th Imaam Mahdi.

6.) Do not produce Haafiz.

7.) Do not perform Taraweeh.

8.) Quraan will be read/ learnt when 12th Imaam brings it.

9.) Ali (R.A) showd original Quraan to Sahabah(R.A) who rejected it.

10.) Passages mentioning virtures of Ali(R.A) has been purposefully deleted from the Quraan.

11.) There are 2,000 shiah traditions making many additions and subtractions in Quraan.

12.) The 'Murtaddeen'- renegrades have removed the name of Ali (R.A).

References:

(1.) Usul Kafi 1:228/ Faslul Kitaab fi Tahrif. Kitaabi Raabul Arbaa of Nuri Tibarsi approved by Khomeni in ' Al- Hukumaat -ul- Islamiyaa". (2.) Usul Kafi P671. (3.) Usul Kafi P671. (4.) Kashful Asraar P111.(5.) Usul Kafi 2-632. (6.) See Iran. (7.) See Iran. (8.) Usul Kafi - p622. (9.) Maqbool - 1067 - Usul Kafi Vol1 P228. (10.)Tafseer Ali Qummi-308 /Usul Kafi 1:416/Footnotes of Maqbool's translation 637/ Al- Ihtijaj- Tabarsi- 1-254/ Tafseer of Saafi- 1- 32/ Muqaddamah 6 , from Tafseer Saafi P32 Vol -1. (11.) Usul Kafi 1:228/ Faslul Kitaab fi Tahrif. Kitaabi Raabul Arbaa of Nuri Tabarsi.(12.) Surah Muhammad, Ayat 9, Para 26- Molvi Maqboo

Answer 12

At the death of Muhammad sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam, the majority of the Sahaabah radiyallaahu 'anhum supported Abu Bakr as the first khalif.  A minority supported 'Alee, though 'Alee rejected that group as was mentioned in many different hadeeth.

The differences in actual religious belief didn't arise until later, due to the addition of forged and fabricated hadeeth on behalf of some people from the Shee'ah.  Later on, this became so serious that many traditional scholars such as Ibn Taymiyyah and Dhahabi said it is not permissible to even narrate from the Shee'ah, as they have accepted stories as a basis for religious belief.

The split is small; while Shee'ah tend to say that their numbers are high, Sunni and even Westerners and other non-Muslims tend to put their percentage at 7.5% at the highest and some even as low as 5%.  So it is not a major division.

My answer is, go with those who show respect to all of the Prophet's Companions; the Sunnis love Abu Bakr and 'Alee and all the others.  The Shee'ah consider all of the Sahaabah except for a handful to be disbelievers.  That's actually an offense even to the Prophet himself when you think about it.

Answer 13

If you look inside Quran you will DEFINATELY get your answer. Do not look to any sectioning to find your answer.

Obey Allah and his Messenger.

When you read Quran it will open up a door for you. Befind that door you will see Quran and then you will start to realize what is right in hadeeths and what is wrong.

Your main goal is to please your Creator. And MOST DEFINATELY THE ANSWERS ARE IN THE QURAN.

peace

Answer 14

im a sunni,

nd sunnis is the right way,

all the others believe other bad things, and say bad things