Taking a dalit person to a fancy restaurant?

Question

If I went to India and took a dalit person (an untouchable) to a fancy restaurant; what would the reaction be? Would it vary greatly person to person, place to place?

Hypothetical question...probably unlikely since I don't speak Hindi and I have heard the lower classes don't generally speak English. I was just wondering how deep the class differences in India are today with all of the social changes going on there.

Answer 1

Dear friend,

In India no one would ever ask your caste, religion or community when you enter a restaurant. Culturally fancy restaurants are never worried about your origin.

The caste system is limited only to private gatherings. In small villages even 'Daliths' do not entertain other 'Daliths' who are considered to be of lower community by them !

The feeling is similar to racial discrimination in the west. The best source to understand the racial / caste discrimination in the west as well as east is the book called "Happiness Hypothesis" by Jonathan Heidt.

The fire under the ash would be felt

regards

rishi

Answer 2

You can spin a rope out of sand ,but you can never expect a true answer from a hindu especailly people like our friend sita.I hope you want to know about the Indian situation especially with regard to dalits.

First of all u ought  know some thing about the hindu friends  who have answered here, especaially about our friend sita.He will always speak just the opposite things.He will tell '0' is the biggest number and 100 is the smallest number.In his understanding Jesus Christ is just as ordinary good man like his uncle .Thats all .

The world has thousands of Global problems .But in his answers or questions he would never touch  any of the world prblems .In all his many hundreds of questions & answers he will speak only about hinduism..What a funnny and strange thing.From this u can  understand that  he belongs to  the Orthodox Caste hindu group & especially to a  highly fanatic group.

I whole heartedly welcome u to Inida not only to enter in to a fancy Restaurant but also to get your Ph.D with regard to the dalit problems and dalit oppressions.

For names sake u can ask any question with the caste hindus ..but don't believe their answers .Will any criminal easily acceopt his crime in the Judicial court.Likewise the caste Hindus ( the high caste Hindus) who  will never give you the proper answer .They will always try their level best to twist things and cause u fail to reach the Truth. You can believe them in other respects if u want  but not in this caste matter .The Truth won't come out of their mouth.

They have oppressed the dalits for the past many thousands of years .With red-iron fist they totally prevent(ed) education and literacy for them.

They divided the Human beings in to just four groups.

1.Priests ( Brahmins ) - .the group to which our friend  Sita belongs to.

2.People who fight in war.( Kings )

3.The business men

4.The( agricultural ) land owners  ..

Actually the people u are mentioning (the dalits ) r not counted as human beings.They don't come under any of this four category .They are called '  Out-castes.'

( Even today , some film producers (esp.Tamil ) to some extent  exhibit the untold  tragic life of the dalits. They were just called 'monkeys' and they were not permited to have good ,decend  well and sweet -sounding names also.

Before kowing any thing in detail ,one ought to know that India has Two major group of people.

1.The Dravidians ( the aboriginal beings of India ).They have a very great & unimaginable (Indus valley ) civilization even 5000 years back. The uniqe civilization .They were greatly God-fearing.

2. As mentioned in the Bible,in olden days people used to wander with their flock for good pastures.

"They found rich, good pasture,and the land was spacious ,peaceful and quiet .

Some Hamites had lived there formerly.

Then men whose names were listed came in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah.They attacked the Hamites in their dwellings and also the Muenites who were there and completely destroyed them,as is evident to this day. Then they settled in their place ,because there was pasture for their flocks. "

( Bible : 1 Chronicle 4:40-41 ).

Please see how the shepherds used to behave with the people of good lands they happened to see on their way of pasturing..

This was how the above mentioned Aryans who came for pasturing (  through the Hyber & Bolan passes ) happened to defeat the native aboriginal people and just drove them gradually Southward.

The Aryans were "  white" in colour and the Dravidian for the normal-eyed people ) " saffron ".

They misused the piety of the Dravidians & sharpened their brain to subdue the whole Dravidian race.They created many spiritual  Rules and Regulations & thrust them upon the God-fearing people and made them accept those Dogma.The author of those  Divine Dogmas was ' Manu Smruti '.

The world's number one race was thus enslaved by the Aryans since 2000-1500 B.C .

The world's  Most Worst Supppression & Oppression was/ is carried out by the Aryan (Orthodox hindu groups ).

In one book I read that the particular group called Dalits are none other than the  actual Priesthood people of the Dravidians.Now the Aryans over powered and overtook the Dravidian priests (the dalits ) & now they have been occupying the Priesthood among the so-called hindus all over India.

The Aryans are (even today )  just 4% .With their cunning means they brought all other Dravidian people under them.

Just consider them as 'A'

and they woud say to 'B' ,"you are higher than 'C' ",

and they would say to 'C' , " You are higher than 'D' "

and they would say to 'D', " You are higher than 'E' "......

and they would say to ' Y ', "You are higher than ' Z ' "

who was the actual Priests for the Dravidian people.

Thus they satisfied all the dravidian people ,alienated the Dravidian priest group and thus successfully avenge(d ) them.

O,there is no there lower man than the 'Z' (the dalit.)

The dalits are socially (with contempt & negligence called ) " Pariahs " .If you refer to the English dictionary a very low meaning would be given for the word "Pariah ".

But the actual meaning of "Pariah" is far greater.=

"Sirs who can speak ".

They were greatly respected and honoured by the Kings .

It was they who took the King's Orders and Announcements to the public.

They proclaimed the King's orders (as we see in the Bible to know the meaning ).

"Then at Belshazzar's command ,

Daniel was clothed in purple ,

a gold chain was placed around his neck,

and he was proclaimed the third highest ruler

in the kingdom."

( Daniel 5:29 ).

People who can speak  well and communicate matters in the most proper manner alone can be appointed as such Proclaimers and foreign Ambassadors.Yes they were the learned.

" Pray that I may proclaim it clearly ,as I should."

( Bible :Colosians 4:4 )

They were the Proclaimers or God and the king.

But the selfish Hindu Manu laws brought the Dravidians  to be the Aryan's slaves.

About Dreavidians :

"There is good ground ,then,for supposing that

before the coming of the Indo-Aryan, speakers of the Dravidian languages predominated in north and in south India."

( says : Prof.E.J.Rapson: Cambridge History of India,Vol. 1)

But God heard the dalits' crys and now a days, after india's Independence ,the dalits are given some special Care by the Indian Government considering their many thousand years of Suppression ,Oppression and Slavery ( literaly ).The world's biggest book would be it ,if a detailed book is written on this subject.

please see the the brain and hard work of a dalit that the Indian costitution was Written by a dalit scholar ,Dr.Ambedkar( the Mother of Indian Constitution ).He greatly struggled to break away all caste barriers and to come up in life.

The Hindus practice(d )

Untouchability

Unapproachbility

Unseeablity.

Now ,partially by strict Government Rules and partially by the great Liberation Ministry of he Christian Church, a considerable Liberation has been brought out. Only in places Christianity is preaced ,such a slavery is broken.It is solid.For this only the hindus alsways remember the North east India (Mizorum and the areas around).Chriatianity Liberates.

The Hindus(esp.the Aryan(brahmin ) who can't tolerate the Liberation of the dalits, wants to break the back bone of Christianity  which alone is in thier sight doing the Liberation Ministry among the dalits.

This is the one and the only reason ,why some extemist Hindu groups (with well-planed schemes) want to destroy the whole Christianity  from India .They greatly expect to rule the whole world also soon.

They want to cheat non-indians saying ," Christians are Bribing the poor hindus and make them convert to Christianity. It is a pure lie.The Governments' rules are so strict that no one should be lured with any thing  to be converted.The Government has no such cases filed any where in india ( may be except one or two false cases).

Even now , only around some 3 to 5 % of Liberation alone has been achieved.

If a dalit wants to hire a house in a town ,he is immediately denied.

If a dalit  lives in a hired house ,the moment his identity is found ,O,he is sent out .

As you asked :

If you take a dalit now a days (of course in his usual poor dress )  the table waiters of the Restaurant will  just look down upon you  and  also just treat him will a little negligence .No doubt. If the dalit reveals his identity openly ,then the table waiters   won't hesitate even to frown at you. They won't even hesitate to just drop down the food items on the table. Since it is a just business place such things are not noticed much.But the dalit man should be in an honourable and respectable garment .It is better not to reveal his identity.

If the Manager of the restaurant is a dalit ( unknown to the Owner ), and if some source of his identity is found ,no doubt ,within 24 hours the dalit manager will be sent home.

Like Moses taught Israelites, Manu taught the Hindus how to oppress and suppress the dalits.

Regarding Education:-

" Nasutraya mithim thathyaath"

(that is not to teach any hting which would open his eyes of reason.)

bathyuhyaa Yedhalmasaanam Sutrusdhasmaath

sutrasamibeinaathyei dhaivam.

Adhaasya veidhamuyasrunvadhasthra

bujadhubayaams roathrabooranam.

( that is :

Dross and wax should be melted and be poured in to the ears of the Sutra (or the non-brahmin )

All my Brahmin boy friends and girl frends are so humane .I do hope that their Scripture only has misled some of them  ,or they themselves must have misundestood their Sripture .

Answer 3

You are most welcome in India and enjoy the hospitality of great Indian restaurant along with dalit person. Now in India great personalities are ruling to Indians from these casts.Practically no cast difference is exists in India now.

Answer 4

Am not getting your question..

if the dalit has enough money he himself can go to the restaurant..

why do you want to take him??

what untouchable... how do you distinguish dalit and others??

any one can go to any restaurant

Answer 5

The word Dalit itself is objectionable as per backword class forum. Class difference is there but not alarming as it presented.. there are millionair in backwprd classes... fruits of development has reached masses... Dalits itself are more responsible to remain as dalit as they want to keep indentity to get benefits...