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The Best Calliber to shoot Deers&Bears dead with?

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The Best Calliber to shoot Deers&Bears dead with?

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  1. I agree with everybody else who recommends a 30'06 for rifles and the S&W 500 for handgun.


  2. .30-06 @ a bullet weight of 220 grs. or 7mm Remington Magnum @ a bullet weight of 175 grs., .444 Marlin @ 240 grs., .300 Winchester Magnum @ 180 grs will all work on deer , bear, moose, elk and even Alaskan Bear.

  3. I have shot both with a 30-06. I have never hunted brown bear though. I would say for everything in N America with exception of brown bear, 30-06. The browns and whites, are better hit with a modern big bores in th 4s.(45-70, 416, 400/450 nitros, to name a few)

    Its not that the ought 6 cant kill them, h**l people hunt browns with bows. Its that brown bears, and white bears EAT YOU!!!

    So put em down fast, or risk being lunch.

  4. 30-06 has been working very well for a long time.

    For deer Deer size game the 150-180 grain bullets work well. For coarse hair, dense packed Grissel and muscle on the Bear I might switch up to the 220 grain round nose bullet plus the shot is generally much closer.

  5. There are so many to choose from, but I will attempt to pick just one, and it would have to be the tried, true, tested and proven to be the best since 1906 the 30-06 caliber.* You have a greater variety of bullet weights to choose from with a 30-06.* It will harvest any game in North America cleanly and efficiently.*

  6. 30-06 hands down.

  7. Bad comparison, deer and bear.  Bear take more killing than deer.  I use a .25-06 Remington for deer.  Depending on the bear I might even use a .458 Win. Mag.  Small bear and big deer I'd use a .30-06 Springfield.

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  8. 30/06

  9. 300 win mag in a Remington 700.  Enough power and accuracy to take any North American game.  If I were you though, I'd use two different guns.  any 30 caliber rifle will work for deer...bears are a different story.  I've gone on hunts for bear with 45/70 and .50 Beowulf.  Those rounds knock em on their *** and they don't get up.

  10. Times really change! In Cartridges of the World, Frank C. Barnes describes the 44-40 (44WCF) as "It is said that it has killed more game, large and small, and more people, good and bad, than any other commercial cartridge ever developed." The reputation of this hoary old black powder cartridge, actually with slightly less power than a 45 Long Colt but often chambered in the 1873 Winchester rifle busy "winning the West" with legendary panache, continued long into the 20th Century, before being supplanted by subsequent historical events, and a tidal wave of awesomely powerful smokeless cartridges!

    Nowadays, the mere mention of "primary use on Brown bear", brings a well-deserved knee-jerk response of mentioning the 338 Magnum. And then murmurs of the Model 1895 Marlin in 45-70 being just as good and more fun! I like to point out that most folks can drive the Al-Can Highway (perhaps first rigging a plexiglas rock-shield over their windshield!), for that Alaskan Brown bear hunt you don't even have to hire a guide for in many zones, using their full loads in some gun they regularly download with handloads for the usual deer hunts. In 45-70, factory ammo choice is easily available for anything from gentle short range deer woods use, to steamy loads for African Big 5, which kill on both ends!

    In the 338 Magnum rifle, one may duplicate 44 Magnum handgun power for the deer woods using 200 grain bullets over 25.0 grains of SR4759, and the 1600 fps gives flat trajectory +/- 3 inches out past 150 yards, in woods where you can't usually see that far! (I would set the sights 3" high at 100 yards.) This is 41 Mag muzzle energy delivered at 150 yards, certainly plenty of power! The 200 grain Hornady #3315FP intended for the old 33 Winchester, expands well at these low velocities. (Supplies at http://www.midwayUSA.com/ ). The 200 grain Hornady Spitzers #3310SP at 2400 fps over 47.4 grains of IMR4064 (known for consistent performance over a wide range of temperatures), give excellent range and power for use on elk and Mule deer, at ranges one may actually hit well at from field positions on loose 1 to 1 slope terrain. This is midway in power between the 308 and modern loadings of the 30-06, which has "elk" written all over it!  Use more power as desired for longer distances, bigger game, etc. So a person may have all the bragging rights of owning a 338, shooting it painlessly at the range and in the deer woods, and be ready for that Alaskan adventure as soon as they have worked up to handling full loads at their leisure! Not a bad plan. Regards, Larry.

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