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The Kung Bushmen of the Kalahari go into a trance and leave their body. Do you believe it?

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They report seeing strange antoctic designs and say they move upward through a strange web like world to enter into a house of knowledge. These Capoids represent the root race of our species having the most genetic variations in certain genes and carry with them perhaps the oldest methods

for out of body experiences.

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  1. The K'ung shaman are little different from other cultures, both modern and historical.

    The ancient Egyptian Sem (high) priests would consume certain hallucinatory drugs which would bring on trances. What they really saw, who knows? But, the Egyptian kings, ('pharaoh' is Greek not ancient Egyptian), depended on their information.

    One example is known. On their New Years day the king made a pilgrimage to Dendara to the Temple dedicated to the goddess Ht-hor,( 'the house of Horus'), [Greek 'Hathor'], to be told if the Nile would flood at its' usual time bringing the rich soil down into the Egyptian valley, by the Sem priest... what has been found is...the priest would go into his trance, but earlier a lesser priest was sent up the Nile further south to a Nileometer...which would show whether the Nile was rising... You can imagine the rest!

    Some of the herbs/drugs were derived from the papyrus root and the root of the Mandrake plant. Also used ,it is believed by some historians/Egyptologists was a poison from a type of blow fish...

    Other shaman of different cultures ingest other herbs, etc. to get the same effect...

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  2. They believe it and it is a part of their culture, that is what is important.  I doesn't matter if others believe or not, does not make it less real to them.  We believe that airplanes can stay in the air.  To someone who has not seen or experienced this it is not real.

  3. it's very easy to dismiss it as a drug induced hallucination until you've seen someone in a trance. i haven't seen the !Xung people do it but a Nguni traditional healer go into a trance during a cleasing/healing ceremony (called "ku femba"). it's the strangest thing and it's hard to say that it's not real, but my logical mind rejects it entirely. so i'm caught... not entirely sure what to believe.

  4. I believe in out of body experiences (having experienced one during a clinical death experience and on occasion at other times), but I find this representation of it highly suspicious.  I've diligently sought out OBE "teachers" and quite frankly, most are quacks.  The whole idea of "journeying into the library of Atlantis for knowledge" or encountering fairy lovers or other garbage is nothing like any of the OBEs that I've experienced.  I've simply floated...formless and been able to see things that are going on outside of my body.

    I am not 100% sure that what I experienced is more than lucid dreaming, but I suspect it is from things that I've seen and finding out that they DID happen later.  I'm 100% sure that those who visit fairyland, or atlantis, or other worlds or realities are dreaming or lying.

  5. About as authentic as the Bushmen portrayed in "The God's Must Be Crazy!"

  6. Yes and no.  Going into altered states of consciousness (which you mentioned) can be done by nearly any one.  Simply put, it's a form of meditation or personal hypnosis.  However,it goes beyond that.  Think of it as controlled, spiritual trip with out the help of acid or shrooms.  Many, many religions and peoples practice this all over the world (Shamans, for one, would be the best example, of).  In most white culture, if someone were to do this, he or she would be considered to have mental health issues / physical brain problems (traumatic stress, migraines, psychosis, anxiety).  Thanks for asking this question.

  7. just tell me one thing you know a human cannot do? they are all rael... like my webs

  8. The Oglala Lakota do to, as do many different groups.  It often involves long term exposure like sitting on a mountain naked for 3 days without food and water.  Sometimes it involves drugs.  Pilots in the navy sometimes report out of body experiences when they are subjected to high g's.  I always thought that was especially weird like a centrifuge for the soul.  I have had a personal experience that makes me believe it is possible.  I have no scientific explanation so just accept that it could be possible but beyond my understanding.

  9. There is a history of the Pharoahs in Egypt using out-of-body specialists who slept and guarded the borders of the country. Any maurauding armies would be detected in time to muster troops, and meet them before they were anywhere near the cities.

  10. I believe it, and I would bet there are "magic mushrooms" involved.  Watch the movie "Altered States" (1980) with William Hurt to see what it is like.

  11. \_,O.o',_/ ?

  12. I believe it. I left my body once and a midget motorcycle gang took my body. I couldn't find my body and was stuck in limbo for almost a month. When I finally found my body it had Tattoos all over it. The condition of my body suggested it had gone through some sexual deviations not yet known to man. I don't recommend out of body experiences to anyone.

  13. i believe it..

  14. drugs are a wonder are they not?...

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