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The Universe is around 14 billion years old, why did God make stars 18 billion years old, or 4 billion years o

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The Universe is around 14 billion years old, why did God make stars 18 billion years old, or 4 billion years o

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  1. God created the entire universe last Thursday (or maybe it was this morning) pretty much the way it is.  Photons heading our way with very specific frequencies, polarizations, etc., out to about one light week out were created and sent along their way.

    So God created microwave ovens, the Hubble Space Telescope, and everything.

    Why?  God is lazy.  It's way too hard to create an infinite Universe compared to one that is a sphere two light weeks in diameter.

    However, it also means that God has lied to us, and given us misleading clues, such as the CMBR and fossils.  But who are we to judge God?


  2. I don't think there are any stars that are 18 billion years old - nothing can be older than the universe.

    Some stars are 4 billion years old because they formed about 10 billion years after the big bang.

  3. The universe is between 13.5 and 14.0 billion years old. It began as a statistical anomaly in the random fluctuations of vacuum energy in some other, now disconnected, spacetime. The density of the energy in the aggregation of flux was sufficient to form an enclosing event horizon. Subsequently, the energy underwent the changes of state that began cosmological evolution, first in the form of pair production and nucleosynthesis, then in the form of stellar and planetary evolution, and then came biogenesis and biological evolution.

    Gods probably do not exist, and, if they do, no one really knows anything about them: not their gender, nor their number, nor their nature, nor their wishes. Sacred books, all of them, are works of men, and most are deliberate works of deception. And, in any event, the god-idea is certainly not needed to account for the existence of the universe, since I've just now done so without reference to the divine.

  4. 1) There are no stars 18 billion years old.

    There used to be a time when stars in globular clusters were estimated to be older than 14 billion years, but we have since understood the mistake we made.  These are now known to be younger than the universe.

    There are lots of stars younger than a billion years old, because stars continue to be born.

    2) If God really is omnipotent, then She can do whatever She wants, including creating, this morning, a star that will be 18 billion years old.  However, if God is good, She will not do that.

    Imagine a god that gives us a universe that seems to follow strict rules of physics, and that same god gives us just enough intelligence that we can, by working together, understand these rules.  Then suppose this god would on purpose plant evidence of billion-year-old objects in a universe that is only 6000 years old.  That would be a malicious god indeed.

  5. First of all. God does exist and you are all going to h**l. But no, the universe is only 13-14 billion years old. Stars started to form a couple billion years after the big bang. I think.

  6. Because the universe is actually expanding at a rate that exceeds the speed of light, which is what we use to calculate the age of the universe. It would "have to be" at some "point in time" if it's expansion is accelerating and it's infinate.

    This sounds like an impossibility but really, it's just a "limitation" on our understanding of what time/space (and therefore what "age" really IS, or even if it IS. Not that I could claim to understand it, being human. Maybe there is "someone/something" that does understand. I don't know;)

    Maybe YOU do:) And if you do....what does it matter if you or anyone can "prove" it?

  7. When God said "Let there be light" (The big bang, don't you think Almighty God speaking would be a big bang)  Matter was thrown forth som of it coalesced sooner rather than later.  Our solar system is on the edge of the Milky way so the matter slowly coalesced(accreted) into the solar system that is why our sun is just a shade over 4 billion years old.  Also you cannot have stars that are 18 billion years old if the univers is only 14 billion years old, did you mix your numbers up?

  8. The universe is about 13.7 billion years old.

    God doesn't exist.

    What eighteen-billion year old star are you referring to?  There are no such known things.

  9. A decade or so ago, the age of the Universe and the age of the oldest stars were not known as well as they are today, and this discrepancy existed.  It turns out that there were some errors in dating the age of extremely metal-poor stars.

    One problem with Creationists is that they don't keep up with scientific advances.  Instead, they maintain lists of past scientific discrepancies such as this, and trot them out at regular intervals in order to discredit science.  I think it's a manifestation of their willingness to consider all knowledge to be a settled matter, determined once and for all by authority, insead of an ongoing enterprise contingent on observation and experiment.  So they think playing "Gotcha!" with science is a valid game.  A scientist looks upon discrepancies as interesting--flaws in our understanding that point the way toward fruitful future investigation.

  10. I'm not sure, why don't you ask Him????

    Alexis.....GOD DOES EXIST!!! Read John 3:16, the Bible

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