The famous philosopher Wittgenstein once said "Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent" Sooo...?

Question

.....given that God is way way way way way beyond human understanding, and that I cannot use common sense or reason to ask questions of him/her/it..... Why are there still Christians, Mozlims, and Jews wasting their breathe????

Do you Christians, Mozlims, and Jews and other (monotheists) therefore understand that you may need to shut your mouths?

All opinions welcome... (please return the favor of being as candid as I have)... thank you.

Answer 1

adding to nick...Be still, and know that God is in you.

Answer 2

I will try and follow your example of candidness; however, this will be short. The statement that God is way beyond human understanding implies some understanding of Him. Further, if you cannot use common sense or reason (or logic, for that matter) to ask questions of Him, then this question would be a meaningless one, at least illogical (but I hold that whatever is illogical is also meaningless insofar as truth is concerned). Thus, the possible argument that is being made defeats itself on one of it's premises, i.e. if God is beyond human understanding is true and you're inferring that statements made about Him are not adequate expressions, then this statement must also been inadequate; for, again, it implies some understanding of God.

Jesus loves you=candidness

Buckley, the "fatal mistake" that you say I am making can be argued for in another topic but since we both agree that reasoning is pleasurable and also necessary let us honor that and avoid fallacious moves (like red herrings) and evaluate, together, as men (not yet saints) who, although have different beliefs, can work together nonetheless so as to reach the glorious truth.  Thank you for your time and willingness to read.

Your assumption is that I meant we could work together for all possible truth. However, I meant we could work together concerning the truth of the question asked here not about whether God exists or not (which is another topic). That's it.

I have nothing further to add to your second post. As I said I don't know enough about philosophy yet or even epistemology to continue in discussion, and I believe that it's better to leave a fight when you have nothing left, calling it quites, at least for now, so as not to make a fool out of your self.

By the way, since we're pointing out fallacious reasoning...

"obviously you are still a slave to your emotions thus you need your theistic assumptions..."

Ad Hominem?

Answer 3

well, as I live and breathe . . .  a theist applying logic to debate a-theism!

What could be next? The paradigm shift we've all been waiting for?

I posed the question a few days ago about the relationship between Plato's concept of beauty as a vector towards the theory of (pardon my term "theory" please) incarnation. There were a couple of good answers there suggesting that a viable conclusion could, in fact be that one could have been derived from the other.

I would like to see a refutation (or further argument for) the idea.

So, no I don't think theists (particularly the ones answering this question) should "shut" anything.

Regards!