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What does it say really? I've heard that the world "Supposedly" ends on December 21, 2012. But does that mean we're all going to die? Or does it mean we're going to go through major changes. People say they made predictions of what will happen, what exactly are they?

and what do you think will happen, if anything at all happens?

i personally believe that the world IS NOT going to end. BUT i do believe that there will be major changes to our climate that would cause a lot of death, but not the death of everyone, and everything. i don't know id love to hear your opinion on this topic/debate.

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  1. First off, if the Long Count ending really is supposed to be the end of the world, according to the Mayans, there's no reason to believe that it'll really happen.  The world has been predicted to end so many times that's it's not even funny anymore.  In fact, just last night I read that Armageddon should be beginning on August 8, 2008.  I don't know if it's just late getting here, but the internet is not exactly abuzz with news of the Four Horsemen today.  The only definitive world-ending prediction that has any basis in truth is the sun's eventual expansion that will burn our world to cinders.  That's not for awhile yet, so I think we'll be okay.

    The Mayans didn't really think that the world would end then, anyway, and they made that calendar, so they should know.  Their calendar is cyclical, rather like ours, and the Long Count, which is what's due to end in 2012, is sort of like an extra-long version of our millennia.  The current Long Count started in 3114 BCE, so you can see how long it really is.  What happens when December 2012 hits?  The Long Count starts again, just as 1999 (or 2000, if you're a purist) changed over to 2000 (or 2001).  The Mayan scholars say that the Mayans thought something big would happen to mark the event, but there's no word on what that is, and we're definitely supposed to survive it.  Maybe a nice fireworks display?  At any rate, we've got more to worry about with the economy and the energy crisis and the food price crisis.  Those are more likely to bring our "world"- our culture- down than a misinterpretation of an ancient calendar.


  2. The Mayans did not say the world would end, they said this cycle of being/life would end. Open your mind and that could mean anything, along with most predictions, even ones claimed to be true by Nostradamus.

    The Mayans believed that there were cycles of life created by the gods before them, one of which was a peoples made of mud.

    Plus you have to remember that the translations of the Mayan language are not exact due to the fact that when they were conquered the were considered to be savages by the christian church and thus most of their literature works were burned. It could very well be a mis-translation

  3. What really going on is people are projecting their hopes and fears into a simple date. You just read one of the "Doom Boom and Gloom" ones

    The Mayan calendar supposedly stops at "Dec. 21, 2012, when the Maya's "Long Count" calendar marks the end of a 5,126-year era. "

    One problem is calculating this date to our calendar. An excerpt from some discussion runs: "in which the Venus Round is cut short after 61 Venus cycles to locate a new 1 Ahau Sacred Day of Venus near an actual Venus morningstar appearance, is probably only one of many conceived by the Maya...potent Venus Round of 37,960 days...dichotomy between Lounsbury's work and Thompson's, ... correlation question...Thompson correlation of 1930 (corr# 584285), while Thompson himself revised it 2 days in 1950 (corr# 584283).

    http://www.alignment2012.com/fap9.html

    So what will happen on this date (or has already happened, or may happen some indefinite time before or afterwards?) You see our calendar has a 7 year math error. It's really 2015.

    "Lawrence Joseph forecasts widespread catastrophe in Apocalypse 2012: A Scientific Investigation Into Civilization's End. Spiritual healer Andrew Smith predicts a restoration of a "true balance between Divine Feminine and Masculine" in The Revolution of 2012: Vol. 1, The Preparation. In 2012, Daniel Pinchbeck anticipates a "change in the nature of consciousness," assisted by indigenous insights and psychedelic drug use."

    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/200...

    What so others say?

    "For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies in Crystal River, Fla. To render Dec. 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."

    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/200...

    As for disasters, a review of the last 40 years has these books and events predicting disaster:

    1968 "Population Bomb". Too many people in the 1980s and starvation.

    "Famine 1975" In that year we run out of food

    "Greening of America" We all become hippies eating un-homogenized peanut butter.

    "Future Shock" We'll have too many choices. (The concept of multi-tasking wasn't known)

    the 1970s had a concern of a "new ice age" we should increase the greenhouse effect

    "Jupiter Effect" the planets will line up and the earth will do something.

    "Y2K" Points given for those that can explain "why" it was a concern.

    Millennium Supposedly it was to be the end of the world. The question was"Is it 2000 or 2001?"

    If you get the impression, there's a lot of disaster predictions and they sell books, you're right.

    It brings to mind the quote from "Med In Black" It goes "There's always a battle cruiser, or death ray or plague thats going wipe out life on this planet."

    During the 1800s there were a number of movements that predicted the end of the world. People gave away everything they owned and gathered to await the end. A couple of days later, they started trying to get their stuff back.

    My prediction: on December 22, 20012 we'll still be here; the doom sayers will be on another disaster and none of them will say "Whoops I goofed"


  4. im slightly scared of that but i dont really know exactly what it means but i heard that the mayans predicted the whole future and what had happened in the past and it was all mostly correct so thats about it

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