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The whole '2012' thing is new to me. How long have people been predicting the world's end in the year 2012?

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Not that I believe it, but I must say it is interesting.

How long has this whole thing been going on for?

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  1. It's a new idea, and a very silly one.

    The Mesoamerican Long Count calendar forms the basis for a New Age belief, first forecast by José Argüelles, that a cataclysm will take place on or about 21 December 2012, a forecast that mainstream Mayanist scholars consider a misinterpretation.

    Susan Milbrath, Curator of Latin American Art and Archaeology , Florida Museum of Natural History, quoted in USA Today, Wednesday, March 28, 2007, p. 11D.

    "For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies, Inc. in Crystal River, Florida. To render December 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."


  2. well short answer, around 2008 years ago when the mayans came up withit, however...

    ive read it that many mayan scholars dont really read it as an end of the world any more than reading december 31 is an end of the world prediction on our calendar. what our calender and theirs have in common is a cyclical nature. ours refers to the length of time it takes our planet to orbit the sun once. i believe the aim of theirs was to acknowledge the orbit of our solar system around our galaxy. ive also read that among the experts there is debate about reading the actual dates in question. some say 2012 others something like 2124 or something. also of note is the fact that these cultures and dates eerily coincide with historical events around the globe and other pyramid builders. notably the bablonians predicted return of the iggigi or fallen ones similar to nephilim of the old testament bible. also the christians await a returning messiah as do the jews. in any case i believe these prophesies are not for an end but for interesting events that may shake the status quo.  

  3. i dont know ive never heard of it but i dont belive it

  4. Since the Maya

  5. http://www.greatdreams.com/end-world.htm

    Aztec Calendar

    This is the beginning & the end of their calendar.

  6. I vaguely recall that 3  different prophets from 3 different cultures in 2 different millennia predicted this.

  7. The year 2012 is rumored to be the end of the world.  I assure you that the world will not end on 2012 December 21 but it will end one day.  Remember that if there is a beginning, there is an end.  

    How long has this 2012 rumor been circulating?  Well, it started with Jose Arguelles of the New Age believers, most likely this 2008 only.  I am not certain with the year but it is relatively recent.

    Mayan calendar

    The Mayan’s Mesoamerican Long Count calendar forms the basis for a New Age belief, first forecast by Jose Arguelles, that a cataclysm will take place on or about 2012 December 21 (Wikipedia).  Mainstream Mayan scholars consider “cataclysm” or “apocalypse” as a misinterpretation for to the Mayan scribes, it literally means uncovering or revealing.

    The Long Count has 360 days in a year called “Tun”.  A “Tun” has 18 months or “unials” and each “unial” has 20 days.  Twenty (20) Tuns is a Katun and 20 Katuns is a Baktun (144,000 days or about 400 solar years).  Thirteen (13) Baktuns is a “Great Cycle” of 1,872,000 days (5,200 Tuns or about 5,125 solar years).  The Great Cycle in the proleptic Gregorian calendar started on 3114 BC August 11 (day 0.0.0.0.0) and ends on 2012 December 21 (day 13.0.0.0.0) – winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere.  The Great Cycle restarts the next day (day 0.0.0.0.0).  The representation of the Great Cycle of the Mayan Long Count calendar is as follows: (13 Baktuns.20 Katuns.20 Tuns.18 Uinals.20 days).

    Talking about this doomsday scenario, let me share to you what will really take place as told to us by the Holy Spirit Himself.

    Nostradamus and the book of Revelation

    Nostradamus’ prophecy of when the world will end is far into the future, past about AD 3700.  This is in agreement with what I heard and learned from the Holy Spirit—that there will only be about 144,000 around AD 2200, peace reigns for a thousand years while the Devil, or Satan, is chained up and locked up in the abyss till around AD 3200 (Revelation 20:1-7), and then Satan will be let loose from his prison to deceive the descendants of the elect for about 500 years (Revelation 20:7-10).  After that, the end will come (Revelation 21:1).

    A thousand years of peace

    In the book of Revelation, it tells us about a period of a thousand years of peace. Has this occurred already since the time of Jesus?  Not yet. That will still come. Those that give predictions of the world’s end, such as 2012 and numerous times during the past, are pseudo-preachers. Have they talked to God directly? If so, give proofs.

    Inevitable physical death

    But there is something that will certainly happen—and that is our physical death. This is what we should prepare for. It may come when least expected. We do not know the day and the hour. It will come like a thief in the night. So we just have to be prepared all the time. Search for the true God and when we find Him, follow His commandments and remain in Him until our last dying breath.

    Survival kit – faith in the true God

    This is all that we have to do. It is faith in the true God that we can take with us when we depart from this world. If we denied Him, He will deny us also before the Father in Heaven and send us to h**l. This is very scary – to live in h**l forever.  If we knew Him and loved Him and followed His commandments, then He may reward us to live with Him eternally in His kingdom in Heaven. This is the survival kit that we should have.

    2012 is 20 + 12 = 32, age of Jesus when crucified

    Did you know that in his/her boredom, “Thanks for reading this” theorized in Yahoo Answers, Religion & Spirituality section, that 2012 could be 20 + 12 = 32, the approximate age of Jesus when He was crucified and died?  I answered that he/she is correct in his/her theory.  When Jesus died, He was actually 32 solar years old, equivalent to 33 lunar years.  This is found in the results of a study that I did to check if what the Holy Spirit said regarding the crucifixion of Jesus on August 17 is correct or not.  Details are in http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader88...  Is this a sign that God is warning us of the impending calamity around 2012, like the end of the Mayan’s calendar cycle?  But I repeat, 2012 is not the end of the world yet.

    The 144,000 marked good people

    The Holy Spirit also told us that beings from another planet will take only the marked good people out of this world.  I asked Him if it’s a million.  He said much less than that.  Then I asked if the number is the one mentioned in Revelation and He affirmed it.  A few weeks ago this year, 2008, as I was reading Revelation, I came across Revelation 14:3 to wit (King James Version):  ÃƒÂ¢Ã‚€ÂœAnd they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.”  ÃƒÂ¢Ã‚€ÂœRedeemed from the earth” means saved from the earth.  And there were 144,000 of them.  This must be what the Holy Spirit was referring to several years ago.  

    Advice of the Holy Spirit

    His advice to all: leave their wicked way of life and change their way of thinking.  We should come back to the true God before it’s too late.  (I read in Isaiah 55:7 this message, to wit (KJV): “Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.”)  Be good then so that we may be considered to be among the 144,000 who will be saved, and later will restart and repopulate this world.  The Holy Spirit told us to tell people about this prophecy even though they accuse us as being out of our minds, crazy or lunatics.  He assured us that this will happen, similar to Noah’s prophecy of the Great Flood which took a hundred years before it was fulfilled.  The ark was the vessel used to save Noah and his family and the animals.  This time, another kind of vessel will be used to save the elect.

      

    World War III to start at Spratly Islands

    What is also certain to happen very soon (in about 2012 or earlier) is World War III and this is a nuclear war.  This “calamitous war” (as Nostradamus called it) will start from the Philippines, at Spratly Islands in particular.  The Spratly Islands lie on the southeast part of the South China Sea mostly near the coast of the Philippines.  The Holy Spirit told us that the Philippines is the wick of a gas lamp.  Once the wick is lit, it will be on and aglow.  He told us about this prophecy about two decades ago.  He said that the troubles in the Philippines will spread to the whole world until mankind is almost annihilated and a few will remain.  Spratly Islands are being claimed wholly by China, Taiwan and Vietnam; and partly by Malaysia, Brunei and the Philippines.  The area is considered a tinderbox, a flash point.  It is very rich in oil and gas resources, estimated to be more than the reserve of Kuwait.  The high price of oil may trigger the grabbing of these islands and start the war.

    Certainty of WW III

    Four independent prophecies point to the certainty that this will happen.  These are Nostradamus’ prophecies to happen around this time (quatrains 6:24 and 2:62) , the 56th Chinese prophecy of Tui Bei Tu (the past 55 prophecies have already been fulfilled) found at http://www.alexchiu.com/philosophy/super... and Wikipedia, Revelation 9:18 of the Holy Bible, and those that the Holy Spirit revealed to us.  If you are interested in the details about these prophecies, please send me your request via email.

    Spiritual awakening after the war

    After the calamitous war, we will have a new age, a spiritual awakening or enlightenment, and peace will reign for a long time in this world.  The population would have been reduced by a third and there will be much arable land that will be available.  People will be living in planned cities and communities.  Would you like to live in a city where the land is free and you are guaranteed possession of the land for 50 years, renewable, and which you can bequeath to an heir?

    Come back to the true God now

    The Holy Spirit has given His prophecies and these are what will happen.  Be rest assured then that the world will not end yet.  But please, heed what He advises us to do—to change our wicked way of life and change our wrong beliefs.  Come back to the true God now before it’s too late.  There a lot of lessons to study.

    The decision to believe rests upon you

    I am just sharing with you what I heard and learned from the Holy Spirit.  The decision to believe Him or not depends upon yourself.  I am not forcing anyone to believe in what I share.  It is not my responsibility to save you or anyone, but the person’s.  He is the engineer of the house that he is building.

    Reassurance of the true God that He will save us

    Isaiah 35:4 (KJV) states: “Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompense; he will come and save you.”

  8. Well I didnt hear about it until quite recently, so I dont know how long its been around. The theory comes from the Mayan calendar, which doesnt end on Dec 21, 2012, it is simply the end of their long count calendar in which they believed a great transformation would happen. Many ancient civilizations has calendars based on astronomical events, the Maya were the most advanced of all, and they arent the only ones who predicted as you like to put it "the end of the world", which isnt really what is meant by the whole theory at all. In fact people have diregarded the whole theory because of the whole "the end of the world", when really the date signifies a completion or midpoint of the earth traveling through the galactic plane. Once the Earth approaches the galactic plane, it is said that magnetism of the Earth is affected creating apolcalytpic like events, in other words major catastrophic events like earthquakes, volcanoes erupting, etc etc.

    I believe a German man translaetd the Mayan srcipt and deduced that the calendar ended its long count on 2012, but it doesnt end, it just restarts, their calendars run in cycles, unlike ours that is linear.

    Its not nonsense at all, its backed by lots of facts. People who dont know any better disregard the whole theory because they hear others saying its the end of the world, which it isnt. The Earth will continue to live on, but what the Mayans mathermatically and astronomically predicted was that global catastrophes would happen as a result of precession of the equinoxes, so in other words, mass extinction is right around the corner. Disregard it if you like, but when mid 2010 comes around, you will wintess first hand how real the theory was all along and your fate will  be sealed, and you will witness mass extinctions of not only the human species but of most of the earths species in general. The logical thing to do would be to study it for yourself, because ignoring it will not help you. After all if it happens to not happen you lose nothing by believing in it, you will simply be a little embarssed, if it does happen and you were aware of it then you may have a chance at surviving. Id rather be humiliated than ignore it and die as a consequence of not having looked at the facts. It can get as complicated as a quantum understanding of our universe if you like, but that isnt required to understand it and make sense of the logic behind the theory. Consider the dinosaurs went extinct by a natural phenomena, why do we believe our fate will be any different? Ever consider the real reason behind "global warming"

    "

    The Mesoamerican Long Count calendar forms the basis for a New Age belief, first forecast by José Argüelles, that a cataclysm will take place on or about 21 December 2012, a forecast that mainstream Mayanist scholars consider a misinterpretation.

    Susan Milbrath, Curator of Latin American Art and Archaeology , Florida Museum of Natural History, quoted in USA Today, Wednesday, March 28, 2007, p. 11D.

    "For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies, Inc. in Crystal River, Florida. To render December 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in"

    What the h**l are you talking about, who is going to cash in, WHO IS GOING TO CASH IN, please tell me, because I dont see how that makes any sense. That is just nonsense. Look up precession of the equinoxes, scientifically proven!!! Its people like you who are the problem with this theory, NOBODY IS CASHING IN, NOT A d**n PERSON. Oooo let me go sell my 2012 book, because you know they are going to make millions off of some lame book, despite all the information being online. Thats just liek people who say global warming is a hoax, which it isnt, and is actually tied to this 2012 event.  Do yourselves a favor people and ignore everything this women said, she couldnt be more misinformed.

    What do I have to gain by telling you about 2012, absolutely nothing. I am not selling you a book, Im  not even giving you links. Bleieve what you want people, but when the time comes around, you will be sorry you didnt believe and it will be way to late to do anything but watch yourself die along with all your friends and family.

  9. My understanding is that it stems from the belief that the ancient Maya civilization produced a calendar that only went up to the year 2012.

  10. I think some people would say its been around for thousands of years.

    But like you I have only heard of it recently, like in the last 4 years or so

  11. If Jesus or God wanted us to know, he would have put it in the bible...

    It could end tomorrow, just make sure your heart and soul are ready. Live a good life and be fine

  12. There is a show on the History channel that you really should catch.  It is on the 2012 phenominon.  The Myan Sun Calander and the Eie Ching as well as Nostradamus all predicts it.

    Honestly, I don't believe it will be what the christians think will happen but it will be a sevear climate change and maybe mass distruction, but it won't be the end of the world.

  13. I think it started as soon as the 6/6/6 (June 6, 2006) end of the world thing ended. As soon as the 2012 end of the world thing ends, they will probably think of something new.

    "But of that day or hour, no one knows, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be watchful! Be alert! You do not know when the time will come." (Mark 13:32-33)

    Jesus told us in no uncertain terms that we were not to know when the end of the world would come but that we were always to be ready.

    Each new Christian denomination seems to worry about the end of the world a bit too much. Then after a couple of centuries, they realize that there are always wars and rumors of wars, etc.

    I won't even mention the hundreds of false predictions of the end of the world over the centuries, all of which were based on individual interpretations of biblical prophecies.

    The early Christian Church thought that Jesus was going to return at any moment. Only after a couple of centuries did the Church realize that it may be 2,000 or 4,000 or 8,000 years before Jesus returns.

    The Catholic Church wisely follows Jesus' advice and teaches that each of us should live as if we will meet our maker in the next ten minutes and that we need to work to make the world a better place for our 100 X great-grandchildren.

    Do not worry about the end of the world. Trust God to make sure everthing happens to plan. Just be ready to meet God at any time.

    For more information, about what Catholics believe about the end of the world, see: http://www.americancatholic.org/Newslett...

    With love in Christ.

  14. the mayan's predicted it. essentially its when their calendar ends... i think the way it works is their calendar would have to start over but the prediction is that the world will end on dec. 14 (i think) 2012

  15. I think they may be referring to Britains performance in the 2012 Olympics being hosted by the UK

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