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The world will end at 2012??

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Heard about it alot and was wondering on you peoples thoughts. Its a mayan thing i think but didnt the mayans have help from Aliens Lol :P

just to let u know im not a conspircy person just curious. lol?

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  1. well the odd thing is that so many doomsday theories are out there right now. i'd say that if we have maybe 4 good ones with some basis in reality, that if you add one more than the odds change dramatically. all of them individually have a much increased chance of being right.


  2. By early in July 2008 questions about 2012 had been asked more than 10,000 times.  I have given a version of this answer more than 140 times.  See also -

    http://robotics.caltech.edu/~mason/Delus...

    This stuff is all lies and fraud to get people buying faked up books, videos, watching nonsense shows on TV and directing traffic to fraudulent websites.

    Pole shifts - no, not a chance.  The Earth’s axis of rotation is stabilised by the Moon’s gravity.  

    Magnetic poles flip - no, they will just keep moving as usual.  They are likely to change ends at some time in the geologically near future but it will take hundreds to thousands of years to happen.  Meanwhile, the magnetic field will not disappear, but it will probably get more complex.  

    Mayan calendar - one of their calendars ends in 2012 because they ran out of numbers in a count of days.  There is no prediction attached to this and even if there was, it would be astrology and that has been disproved so many times that it's not worth any more words.

    Solar maximum - expected in 2011, maybe 2012 and it happens every 11 years anyway.

    Predicted planetary “alignments” are completely false.  The positions of the planets will be about as far from an "alignment" as you can imagine.  The next "alignment" of the major planets is expected sometime after the Sun burns out.  Even if it did happen the question would arise "So what?"  Where is the physical connection between Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn etc?  

    Gravity?  Like to calculate how strong the gravitational effects of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn is on Earth?  Multiply the masses of the planets together, divide by the square of the distance between them and then multiply by the gravitational constant, which is a rather small number.  Now add them all together and you still don't have a hill of beans.

    Newton knew how to do this about 300 years ago, but our planetary alignment freaks never care to do the calculation because the result would make them look as silly as they are.  

    Venus will transit the Sun in June 2012, just as it did in 2004 and on a regular cycle before that.  No noticeable effect then except on astronomers, some of whom will take measurements, no expected effect this next time.

    Planet X / black hole / brown dwarf / wandering planet - No.  It was predicted for 2003 by a loony woman who claimed telepathic contact with aliens.  No sign of it then and still no sign of it.  If this big nasty exists it must be quite close by now and visible with a fairly ordinary astronomical telescope.  Where is it?  The assumption that it can only be seen from the southern hemisphere and therefore astronomers don’t see it is nonsense, there are many large optical and some radio astronomical telescopes in Chile and Australia.

    Nibiru was originally a separate scare and depends on some faked-up scholarship by a fraud called Z. Sitchin.  He claimed to be able to read cuneiform, a script used by Babylonians among others.  He could not but others can.  He stole some of their work, invented the rest and claimed that some old Babylonian texts talked of a planet with a 3600 year orbit that passed close to Earth.  This planet was inhabited by aliens who landed on Earth to enslave people into producing gold for them.  There is no record of this 3600 years ago.

    In fact Nibiru is an old Mesopotamian name for the planet Jupiter, which will be staying right in its accustomed orbit, thank you very much.  Sitchin disagreed with the "Planet X" loony though both of them were liars or frauds.  

    25,800 year cycles.  This is called "precession of the equinoxes" and was discovered a bit more than 2100 years ago. It has been happening since the Earth formed billions of years ago and will not stop, start or change direction in 2012.    There is no particular significance in the direction the poles of rotation happen to be pointing at present or in 2012.  

    The Bible codes were disproved within months of the first book coming out, similar coded messages can be found in any random book or even newspapers using the same "anything goes" methods faked up by the author, Michael Drosnin.  He used the codes to predict a nuclear war starting in 1997.  Oops.  

    Revelation - nobody ever made sense of those febrile maunderings, the evidence for that is that there are so many different interpretations.  It has been used to predict the end on dozens of dates from the year 500AD right up to April 2008.

    Nostradamus never predicted anything accurately and he may not have intended to.  Many editions of his quatrains contain faked verses inserted long after he died.

    Galactic central plane - we are near it, so astronomers say, but we have always been near it, though nobody actually knows exactly where it is.  No exact "alignment" is possible because of the angle of the ecliptic to that of the galactic central plane.  A rough “alignment” of Sun, Earth and the galactic centre happens twice every year and nothing happens.  Even if there was an exact “alignment”, the question would be "So what?"

    Photon belt - this one is almost the silliest of the lot.  The Earth was expected to enter this region in 1997 with remarkable effects.  Oops.  The “photon belt” is also said to be around the "7 Sisters".  Our solar system is heading away from them, not towards them.  It does not exist anyway.

    This is all fake scholarship, pseudo-science, lies, superstition and abject delusion.  


  3. You've been here for a year and a half and you still don't know what the search for similar questions bar is for?

    Maybe you isn't da man.

  4. do you mean the protoss or the zerg.  if it's protoss, we can use doplimacy.  as long as we don't do anything hostile, we can co-exsist.  I think Jim and Artanis are friends.

    If zerg, we are doomed.

    /nerd

  5. There is a very small chance (the chance that any day might be the end of the world), but it's too small to be considered. It's a No for me.

  6. Yawn. This question is asked several times every day. The answer doesn't change: No more reason to expect the end on that day than any other day in the next billion years. The Mayans did NOT predict the end of anything except possibly a calendar cycle (similar to year 2000 in our conventional calendar).

    Plan to be alive in 2013!

  7. I personally think it will be another regular year with outrageous prices on everything. i bet a ton of movies will come out based on this.

  8. no thank you sirree

    not in my lifetime

  9. It's not only Mayan, but also references in The Bible, and also with Nostradamus.

    It certainly is curious, though I am a natural skeptic.

    There is a lot of seemingly credible evidence out their on the internet, but it begs the question why would it be virtually completely ignored not only by world governments, but also by mainstream media?

    There is also a lot of controversy about the Mayan calendar, as it has to be interpreted since it doesn't calculate time like we do.  There are also some who simply believe 2012 is where the Mayan calendar starts over.

    The issue at hand is Planet X, also known as Nibiru, which supposedly is outside Pluto, in an elliptical orbit which only passes through our solar system every 3600 years, but when it does (and it will next in 2012) it comes so close to Earth that it can cause polar shifts.  My question is if this last happened almost 3600 years ago, why is their no history of polar shifts or devastation then?  The last ice age was hundreds of thousands of years ago, not 3600.

    Then if you dig deeper into the theories you also see that the planet is supposedly populated by superior beings who helped give us the technology to build the pyramids, etc.  My question to that would be how in the world do they survive the extreme cold of being so far away from the sun, and then the extreme heat of passing really close to the sun?

    Then some people still think that this race of people genetically created the human race, originally to be workers, and that they bred with us and created the race known as the Nephillum, who were supposedly giants with 6 fingers and toes.  Of course that is referenced in the Bible too, which would give it slight credibility.

    You can Google reports of giant skeletons being found, etc, and they do look credible.  Just look on YouTube, and you'll see thousands of videos too.

    The supreme conspiracy buffs of course believe that all the world governments know about this and that they and the Vatican have secret planetariums monitoring Nibiru, and that they have a series of underground shelters ready to hold the world's powerful and elite, and that the limited space is why they are keeping it from the public.

    My jury is still out, though I certainly wouldn't put anything past most of the governments on the planet.

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    I like how 4 idiots gave me a thumbs down, even though I basically just imparting information off the net, and it was clear from my words that I didn't subscribe to everything.  I don't trust anyone who is 100% for or against the theories.

  10. I wish people would stop with this stuff. Who knows? Rationally, it doesn't seem as though this will be the case. However, even if it were true, why the fear mongering? Is there anything anyone could do to stop it, anyway? Just live right now and stop freaking people out. A lot of us have anxiety disorders and would prefer to live with just our regular anxiety, not magnified by outrageous claims that can't be proven one way or the other at this point.  

  11. Take heed but fear not for 2012 is just the revealing of the 'antichrist' or the 'man of lawlessness' at the middle of what Jews and Christians call the 7 year Tribulation. Satanists and many pagan cultures from every corner of the world all throughout history have celebrated this like  the Sumerians, Babylonians, Cherokee, Hopi, Chinese I-Ching (confirmed by Terence McKenna), Mayans (Pacal Votan), Egyptians, Celts, etc. This evil event is called "the abomination that causes desolation" that will be set up in the Jewish Temple’s Holy of Holies when the antichrist is imbued with the power of satan himself. When will Yeshua Ha'Mashiach (Jesus) come? Only God Himself knows, but very soon. If you believe or not, that is up to you; either way it still comes.

    Things to look for to PROVE it to yourself soon:

    >Crash of American banks and its financial underpinning: Operation Sitting Duck

    >Fall of America as an economic power and other ways.

    >The Big One: Revelation 18. America goes down on the list of fabled societies nobody believes in any more like Atlantis, Mu, Lemuria, Hyperborea, etc..

    >Martial law. (Google some of Bush's executive orders concerning it- Nightmarish!)

    >Implementation of Project Bluebeam (be ready to hear more and more 'alien talk'... watch your local skies for the show!) Google and youtube it. Aliens... aliens... aliens...

    >Revelation 13-16-18  Trying to make people first accept the REAL ID card (to get you in the system) and then right after forcibly implanting people with these RFID microchips: http://www.verichipcorp.com/

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=f0gXGTcd6eE

    >The start of the North American Union.

    >Push to attack Iran which will start WW3-the atomic war to end all wars. (If you think China, Russia, and the Muslim world would just sit back, you are a mistaken fool!)

    >Final push to one world government: The New World Order- The 4th Reich!

    (The brutal final empire foreseen by Daniel and John)

    >Rise of a miraculous and awe inspiring world leader later to turn world dictator.

    >Push to one world religion where there are "manys ways to God".

    >Toleration of everything but Jews and Christians.

    >Temporary and unheard of "peace in the middle east".

    >Revelation13:10  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPT...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNPn2JLz7...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epMeGr-wD...

    >More world wide food shortages and famines.

    >More earth quakes. More fires. Strange and severe weather.

    >Major spiritual awakenings.

    >Rise of Islamic fanaticism.

    >Rise in wickedness and corruption.

    >Listen to the wisdom of this young child:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF-gcHe7C...

    *** ALERT: THEY ARE ALREADY PRACTICING [A MUST SEE!]***

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=932Zu4e4iVM

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=plELx_wmNgU

    Christians and Messianic Jews look forward to this as it means they will soon join their Messianic Saviour in the Millennial Kingdom of the next Age and their Heavenly Father later as "Children of Light". If you try to equate 2012 with Y2K or some other date that cried wolf, then you will be making the worst mistake in your life. Research all these things FOR YOURSELF!

  12. I don't believe it....

    same thing happened at millenium when the calander turned to 1/1/2000, of course it was based on different circumstances (people then weren't sure how the callenders and computers would change or something like that, I was only 8, so I can't remember quite right)...

    I think the people who believe in it are negative people and I have always been "the glass is half full" kinda person.... hopefully it's not real, cuz the date just happens to be my 23rd birthday...

  13. Here is my reponse to two different posts, some of the information overlaps, but the main points are all there.

    The Mayan Calenday does not end, unlike our own calendar, the ancient civilizations of the past had an accurate measure of time and space, and their calendars follows astronomical events. Their calendar is cyclical, it runs in cycles, so it doesnt ever edit simply starts a new cycle, unlike our own which is linear. The end of their long cou the calendar stops on Dec 21. 2012, this is the end of the age, the exact day that precession completes its 26,000 year cycle. Also the Mayans nor anyother civilization that predicted change on dec 21, 2012, said that the "world will end", the world(earth) wont end for billions of years. However, is that to say that the "world as we know it" will not end, well if you consider that the world as we know it is our physical acceptance of mother earth, the civiliations that occupy it everything that is when you look around, then it will be the end. To make things clear, the Earth will not end, but humanity will be devastated, and mass extinctions will take place. Why you ask, well read this.

    For ancient civilizations like the Mayan, Aztec, Inca, Olmec, I Ching, Egyptian and many others, this is the day that precession of the equinoxes completes one cycle that takes 26,000 years, this is considered to be fact by even astronomers today. There is importance tied to the rare galactic alignment that is supposed to transcend humanity into the next level of consciousness needed for human evolution physcially and most of all "spiritually". You see, everything that exists is made up of energy, ancient cultrues knew this and so they tied great importance to their calendars which they spent thousands and thousands of years perfecting so that the future of humanity would be aware of the repeating cycles of earth and hopefully carry on human evolution into the 4th and 5th dimension, where humans realize the importance of the universe as a whole and their role in the greater meaning of life and existence on a level that involves the exchange of energy frequencies. These ancient civilizations are said to have collected their knowledge from cultures that were much more evolved spiritually and in harmony with nature as the universe had intended it to be from the very moment of creation. There is so much history that cant be explained by modern day scientists, how was it that there "primitive" civilizations built a network of pyramids to track the stars and constellations, how is it possible that they were able to build such complex buliding structures that had the important of galactic alignments embedded into the very structure and location of these buildings. In my opinion from what I have researched and read, the story of Atlantis, a great civilization which many question the validity of, was a culture that was more advanced than our own, not in material items, but in the advancement of health and harmony among the creation of the universe which is simply energy and higher life forms. Through this harmony, they were able to create things so complex simply by using the human brain and tapping into the 4th and 5th dimensional energy frequencies that travel all of space and time.

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