There was something that started from blank??

Question

I'm trying to understand what was when there was no universe and what was when and how was when there was nothing but I seem to not get any idea or picture!

Was the universe always infinite, if so, how?

I can only see a blank picture in my head and a feeling of a limbo, but the limbo also needs to be created.

It's like this, I can't picture out something without a beginning, I see the universe but what was before it, was all black, but also the black must be a creation too, how was everything there if we live in a a kind of hole, was all black, but where the blackness came from??

Answer 1

you can keep trying, but nobody knows the answer.

Our physics is unable, so far, to tell us what happened to cause the big bang or what the passage of time was like beforehand.  The laws of physics were different.

Answer 2

According to Big Bang, there was the Primeval Atom. It was the source of all matter and energy. There may have been a universe before that which grew, expanded and collapsed upon itself. Which would then have started over with our current universe. There never was a "blank".

Answer 3

Black is simply what there is when there is no light. Cold is what there is when there is no heat. The universe is composed of positive, neutral and negative ions. In the ions simple pure state this is non physical. It is the interaction of these ions that create all manifested physical things. So from no thing comes things.

Answer 4

the beginning of the universe was when energy was in its simplest form. my current theory is that form is light light. but i don't think that the scientific community necessarily thinks that way. but that doesn't matter. all the universe is energy, including matter, but only matter, all the elements, or atoms and their particles basically, have mass, and sort of motion too. but not light. when you think about it, the universe is almost only light and motion and matter energy. so light, things with mass and those things moving. when you move things, the faster you move them, the more mass they get. not the more matter, but the more mass.

at the big bang, this purest form of energy, the simplest energy, whatever it may be exactly, was compressed to a point where there was no space. no space, that means no area for stuff to be. does this mean there is nothing? well i don't know, without space is there 3 dimensions? well.. not really, so is it a ball? i guess sort of it would be, but in another way it can't really be since there is no outside of the universe in order to look at the universe, and no space inside it to observe it from the inside, it doesn't really make much sense to talk about the shape of it.

also there was no time at this stage. imagine if all the universe from the hugest parts to the smallest, the tiniest particles, even light, if it waqs all completely still compared with each other, is there time? no you need motion for time, and time for motion, time and motion are kind of the same thing, so they speak about the universe as space-time. 3 dimensions, and motion basically.

at this beginning stage of the universe, if everything is so compressed that there is no space, then nothing is moving, if nothing is moving then there is no time.

so did the universe begin from nothing? no in a sense it is everything and is just now the spreading out of everything. but also it was at a stage where there were basically no dimensions. you could argue i suppose that there were the 3 spacial dimensions, but certainly not the 4th, time/motion.

so now you come to a problem because you might speak of what was before that. before time? well that's weird because in order for before to exist you need time. it was timeless for an infinitely large and possibly infinitely small amount of time.

but i can make sense of it this way, a plausible scenario.

though i believe science considers that the universe is accelerating in its rate of expansion, it is plausible, that the universe would recollapse, maybe somehow we are wrong about the accelerating, or also the universe might be some impossible to imagine shape, that would be for 3 dimensions as a circle is for 1. meaning if you expand forever you end up back where you started.

so basically if all the universe would crunch again under its own force of gravity and crush into a ball, and then bounce open again, not unlike a ball thrown up reaching it's highest point, stopping and then falling again, it may reach that point for an infinitely short amount of "time" and an infinitely long amount of "time" the universe would not exist, then bounce open again, time would begin again.

in this case it would have always been in a sense and in another come from nothing out of nowhere out of no time.

but for all we know it could be much more complex than that and have much more to do with other dimensions we know little about.

it's still kind of vague and impossible to imagine, but maybe that helped, it helps me kind of come to grips with the whole thing anyways, i mean even if it is not what actually happened, it is something that does not conflict with science, that could be possible and that could explain the problem of something appearing out of nothing, which is a logical impossibility. so as long as i can imagine it happening one way, then i can more readily accept that it is possible and could happen other ways i can't even fathom.

Answer 5

Picture a funnel made out of cloth, like one you would use to put frosting on a cake. Now turn the bottom of it upwards. The beginning of time is like the bottom of this funnel, it goes back into itself. The events that generated the Big Bang happened slightly AFTER the Big Bang.

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Answer 6

No one knows what there was before there was time and space as we know it. The infinite is, by its very nature, unknowable. Only god, if such exists, knows all things, but we do not.

The sense that you have of the infinite is about as good as a person can get, without either knowing a great deal of math, or choosing spirituality to supply the answers.