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Does evolution preclude design? Is it possible that matter is and has followed a path towards a logical conclusion? Could that conclusion be to reflect its maker in greater and greater ways with each step? For example, when you paint a picture it reflects your view of you much more than you might understand. You are in fact showing creative thought processes on this forum. Are you a reflection of higher consciousness or of a set of incalculable circumstances?

I can not provide scientifically irrefutable evidence that our universe and all of its structure is evidence of a creator but, I will offer you one very simple problem that currently is scientifically unexplained. Your brain and more specifically your level of consciousness is a huge problem for science to replicate. I will be using an author’s words first and then I will ask my questions that lean towards an argument for design and thus a designer.

In his book "wider than the sky the phenomenal gift of consciousness" author Gerald M. Edelman, M.D., Ph. D, winner of the Noble Prize and current director of the Neurosciences Institute for more info please go to; http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medic...

wrote the following to conclude his book on pages 147 and 148 (His words and spellings);

"In line with these reflections, I have previously suggested that there are two main modes of thought--logic and selectionism (or pattern recognition). Both are powerful, but it is pattern recognition that can lead to creation, for example, in the choice of axioms in mathematics. While logic can prove theorems when embedded in compututers, it cannot choose axioms. Even if it cannot create axioms, it is useful in tamming the excesses of creative pattern making. Because the brain can function by pattern recognition even prior to language, brain activity can yield what might be called "pre-metaphorical" capabilities. The power of such analogical abilities, particularly when ultimately translated into language, rests in the associativity that results from the degeneracy of the neural networks. The products of the ensuing metaphorical abilities, while necessarily ambiguous, can be richly creative. As I have stressed, logic can be used to tame the excesses of those products, but cannot itself be creative to the same degree. If selectionism is the mistress of our thoughts, logic is their housekeeper. A balance between these two modes of thought and the endless riches of their underlying neural substrates can be sampled through conscious experience. Even if, someday, we are able to embed both of these modes in the construction of a conscious artifact and thus further extend our comprehension, the particular forms of consciousness that we possess as humans will not be reproducible and will continue to be our greatest gift."

My questions to you are these:

Where did this gift come from? And to you that will say evolution ask yourself this question. How could natural selection produce a biological product that is beyond its own that biological products comprehension and why would it? Is natural selection as a process capable of producing this level of complexity and more specifically diversity among humans as a whole in anatomic structure and function? If it can produce this diversity, and yet maintain common function namely, Human Consciousness, does that imply intelligence or design? If it does it do you leave open the possibility that this intelligence or designer may have a specific locust?

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  1. Interesting, but flawed. I have Edelman's book on my shelf now and though his  "theory" of neuronal group selection is interesting it is not that well received. For it propose to address a problem with a mystery.

    Evolution obviously produced a brain that has many things beyond it's understanding. You speak as if the blind algorithmic process of natural selection has a goal in mind.

    Implication and logical assertions are one thing, but evidence is another. Try to rid yourself of top down thinking and consider bottom up processes that are blind, undirected and can " meet " their " goals " whether complex, or not. The coin evolution pays in is reproductive success. We lose outright to bacteria on that count. What need has bacteria for conciseness? Evolution is not a race, nor is it progressing toward human conciseness.

    Sorry, not one scintilla of evidence for design has been advanced here.

    I also find it interesting that I have not seen this question in science sections. Do not throw your pearls before the swine of the social sciences anymore. True rigor is in science, as always.

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