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Ive heard alot going around about all the prophicies of 2012, I heard of the mayan calender ending 2 oracles, nostradomis and the I ching ALL saying that its going to end on 2012 on december 21st. My 2 question are this, the man makenna who made that I ching timeline...is that really true....cause if it ends there I find it really hard to beleive that nothing is going to happen, and my second question, is that so far ive heard that weve never had so many governments religions and cultures land on one date for doomsday like this, is this true? please anyone answer me when you can and if you have a website with good info id be interested in that as well.-- Lisa.

Answer 1

a lot of events have to take place before the end of the earth, listen to the bible and nothing else - this is me answering both questions

Answer 2

I'm somewhat skeptical about what will happen, but I'm still somewhat worried too... There are different rumors going around, some of them alot less likely than others, but still possible, h**l we thought our race could survive another billion years until the sun went supernova and destroyed the galaxy, but for the past 20 years now people have been worried about 2012 because ther might be a chance that the world will end (Says people that live thousands of years ago). But if the Mayans were smart enough to predict a doomsday thousands upon thousands of years in the future, then why are they all dead? And if it were from a "doomsday" of their own, then why weren't they smart enough to predict their own comming, or smart enough to go somewhere else?

I don't even know what to beleive anymore, most people don't.

Anyways, here are the discussed possible ways the world will go...

From Humans:

-Flu Pandemic

-Nuclear War / WW3 / Biological War

-Large Hadron Collider

-Nanotechnology

-Religious Apocalypse

-Nuclear Accident

-Rise of the Machines

-Genetic Modification

-Time Travel Error

From space:

-Nearby Supernova

-Explosion from the black hole at the center of our galaxy

-Gamma Ray Burst (GRB)

-Asteroid/Meteor/Comet

-Coronal Mass Ejection (CRE) from our Sun

-Cosmic Rays

-Solar System Falls Apart (butterfly effect)

-Alien Invasion

From Earth:

-Magnetic Pole Shift

-Crustal Pole Shift

-Supervolcano ~ ie Yellowstone

-Ice Age

-Global Warming

And now they sau that the somewhat recently discovered "Planet X" has been the cause of the last several global cataclysms, and they're just now discovering that it could be to blame. They say that every 12,000 or so years it passes by Earth and it can cause massive damages.

Answer 3

Lisa, the significance of that date is that it is close to the winter solstice.  Many cultures in trying to explain why the world is like it is have made memorable stories around that and other repetitive astronomical events.

Indeed, this is why Christ's 'birthday' is regarded as December 25th.  There is no historical evidence for this and at least 20 other religious and spiritual personalities feature the same birthday, from a virgin mother and attended by three kings.  Of course, (at that time in history) hundreds of thousands of people would indeed have been born at the solstice but there is no real significance to it. What IS significant is that the solstices and equinoxes were crucially important in calculating the time to plant crops and control usage of critical resources such as feed for animals.

There are longer cycles and the Mayans had a great understanding of some of the longer ones but if you can picture yourself in their shoes... What happens when your mathematics and your calendar no longer work.. in other words when your model of the heavens lacks critical information for you to be able to predict beyond a certain point?  If your prophets are sufficiently self-possessed (like those of modern times) then they hide this inability to calculate by asserting that if they can't really work it out then of course, the world must end. By definition, this prediction for 2012 means that they were indeed unable to predict after that point.

The human race has for more to fear from itself than it does from a celestial configuration.

-EDIT-

Smittens, I tried to respond to the question you posted to me but the Yahoo link didn't work. Try using it again please with an email address (e.g. Yahoo) and I'll answer it.  The long and the short of it though is that there have been many attempts to find the patterns of order in the world.  I Ching is but one of them.  All are flawed to a greater or lesser extent... some, deeply so!

Answer 4

All this starts with the Long Count of the Mayan Calendar reaching a changeover day on 21st December 2012, just like our calendar changing from 1999 to 2000. Some people think that a calendar reaching a changeover date after hundreds or even thousands of years must mean something big is going to happen. It doesn't mean anything of the sort. It's just a calendar. It isn't a case of different cultures, religions and governments independently arriving at the same date. Everyone has just lumped their own pet doomsday theory on to this one date. Predictions by Nostradamus and the I Ching timeline have been artificially contrived into agreement with this date.

It's all hogwash.

Answer 5

All take heed for 2012 is just the revealing of the 'antichrist' or the 'man of lawlessness' at the middle of what Jews and Christians call the 7 year Tribulation. It is celebrated by many pagan cultures from every corner of the world: Sumerians, Babylonians, Cherokee, Hopi, Chinese I-Ching {confirmed by T.McKenna}, Mayans{Pacal Votan}, Egyptians, Celts, Satanists, etc. An evil event called "the abomination that causes desolation". When will Yeshua Ha'Mashiach (Jesus) come? Only God Himself knows, but soon. If you believe or not, that is up to you. Either way it still comes.

Things to look for to PROVE it to yourself soon:

>Crash of American banks and its financial underpinning: Operation Sitting Duck

>Fall of America as an economic power and other ways.

>The Big One: Revelation 18. America goes down on the list of fabled societies nobody believes in any more like Atlantis, Mu, Lemuria, Hyperborea, etc..

>Martial law. (Google some of Bush's executive orders concerning it- Nightmarish!)

>Implementation of Project Bluebeam (be ready to hear more and more 'alien talk'... watch your local skies for the show!) Google and youtube it. Aliens... aliens... aliens...

>Trying to make people first accept the REAL ID card (to get you in the system) and then right after forcibly implanting people with these RFID microchips:

http://www.verichipcorp.com/ http://youtube.com/watch?v=f0gXGTcd6eE

>The start of the North American Union.

>Push to attack Iran which will start WW3-the atomic war to end all wars. (If you think China, Russia, and the Muslim world would just sit back, you are a mistaken fool!)

>Final push to one world government: The New World Order- The 4th Reich!

(The brutal final empire foreseen by Daniel and John)

>Rise of a miraculous and awe inspiring world leader later to turn world dictator.

>Push to one world religion where there are "manys ways to God".

>Toleration of everything but Jews and Christians.

>Temporary and unheard of "peace in the middle east".

>Revelation13:10  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPT...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNPn2JLz7...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epMeGr-wD...

>More world wide food shortages and famines.

>More earth quakes. More fires. Strange and severe weather.

>Major spiritual awakenings.

>Rise of Islamic fanaticism.

>Rise in wickedness and corruption.

>Total chaos. Listen to this wise young child:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF-gcHe7C...

*** ALERT: THEY ARE ALREADY PRACTICING [A MUST SEE!]***

http://youtube.com/watch?v=932Zu4e4iVM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=plELx_wmNgU

Christians and Messianic Jews look forward to this as it means they will soon join their Messianic Saviour in the Millennial Kingdom of the next Age and their Heavenly Father later as "Children of Light". If you try to equate 2012 with Y2K or some other date that cried wolf, then you will be making the worst mistake in your life. Research all these things FOR YOURSELF!

Answer 6

It's TEOTWAWKI time (again). All superstition, fraud and foolery, like every other time before.  

Anything much to do with the I Ching is just superstition.  It's just a book of changing patterns of long and short lines and has about as much relevance as the changing permutations of bell-ringing.  

Old Nosty never predicted anything accurately and may not have intended to, but fools and frauds have interpreted later events (sometimes more than one of them) as predicted by old Mick Nostradamus.  And some verses have been put in later by various frauds.  

Mayan calender stuff is meaningless, their long count calendar ends in 2012 (we don't actually know which day exactly) mostly because the numbers of days got too big for them to handle conveniently with their particular counting system which was not based on 10 but 18 and another number which I forget just at the moment.  In any case dates after 2012 are noted in some Mayan inscriptions, so they had no expectation that the "world would end" after the end of that long count, just as we have no expectation that the world would end after midnight on any 31 December.  

All the so-called predictions about December 2012 coming from these people is just frauds jumping on the Mayan calendar bandwagon. All the stuff about planets, comets, asteroids, I Ching, Mayans, aliens, galactic centres, photon belts, planetary alignments and the rest is nonsense.    

People on Yahoo Answers like "Brant" and I have answered this question dozens of times and the answer is always the same, it is all fraud intended to make you part with money for faked up books, DVDs and to direct traffic to silly websites. That, or just a practical joke.

Nobody in the scientific or even moderately well-informed adult world takes this drivel seriously (or even knows about it) and it only turns up on YouTube and Yahoo Answers.

Source has a link to a debunking site.  

Answer 7

The year 2012 is rumored to be the end of the world.  This is a false rumor.  So do not worry.  Do not be scared.  I assure you that the world will not end on 2012 December 21 but it will end one day.  Remember that if there is a beginning, there is an end.  

Regarding your question about I-Ching, I refer you to the website cited below in “Certainty of WW III”.  That is about Super I-Ching.

As far as the date is concerned, it is only the Mayan’s Long Count Calendar what will end on 2012 December 21.  The other theories are utterly without sense which ride on that date to make them believable.

Nostradamus and the book of Revelation

Nostradamus did not prophesy that the world would end in 2012.  His prophecy of when the world will end is far into the future, past about AD 3700.  This is in agreement with what I heard and learned from the Holy Spirit—that there will only be about 144,000 around AD 2200, peace reigns for a thousand years while the Devil, or Satan, is chained up and locked up in the abyss till around AD 3200 (Revelation 20:1-7), and then Satan will be let loose from his prison to deceive the descendants of the elect for about 500 years (Revelation 20:7-10).  After that, the end will come (Revelation 21:1).

Mayan calendar

The Mayan’s Mesoamerican Long Count calendar forms the basis for a New Age belief, first forecast by Jose Arguelles, that a cataclysm will take place on or about 2012 December 21 (Wikipedia).  Mainstream Mayan scholars consider “cataclysm” or “apocalypse” as a misinterpretation for to the Mayan scribes, it literally means uncovering or revealing.

The Long Count has 360 days in a year called “Tun”.  A “Tun” has 18 months or “unials” and each “unial” has 20 days.  Twenty (20) Tuns is a Katun and 20 Katuns is a Baktun (144,000 days or about 400 solar years).  Thirteen (13) Baktuns is a “Great Cycle” of 1,872,000 days (5,200 Tuns or about 5,125 solar years).  The Great Cycle in the proleptic Gregorian calendar started on 3114 BC August 11 (day 0.0.0.0.0) and ends on 2012 December 21 (day 13.0.0.0.0) – winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere.  The Great Cycle restarts the next day (day 0.0.0.0.0).  The representation of the Great Cycle of the Mayan Long Count calendar is as follows: (13 Baktuns.20 Katuns.20 Tuns.18 Uinals.20 days).

A thousand years of peace

In Revelation 20:2-7 of the Holy Bible, it tells us about a period of a thousand years of peace. Has this occurred already since the time of Jesus?  Not yet. That will still come. Those that give predictions of the world’s end, such as 2012 and numerous times during the past, are pseudo-preachers. Have they talked to God directly? If so, give proofs.

Inevitable physical death

But there is something that will certainly happen—and that is our physical death. This is what we should prepare for. It may come when least expected. We do not know the day and the hour. It will come like a thief in the night. So we just have to be prepared all the time. Search for the true God and when we find Him, follow His commandments and remain in Him until our last dying breath.

Survival kit – faith in the true God

This is all that we have to do. It is faith in the true God that we can take with us when we depart from this world. If we denied Him, He will deny us also before the Father in Heaven and send us to h**l. This is very scary – to live in h**l forever.  If we knew Him and loved Him and followed His commandments, then He may reward us to live with Him eternally in His kingdom in Heaven. This is the survival kit that we should have.

2012 is 20 + 12 = 32, age of Jesus when crucified

Did you know that in his/her boredom, “Thanks for reading this” theorized in Yahoo Answers, Religion & Spirituality section, that 2012 could be 20 + 12 = 32, the approximate age of Jesus when He was crucified and died?  I answered that he/she is correct in his/her theory.  When Jesus died, He was actually 32 solar years old, equivalent to 33 lunar years.  This is found in the results of a study that I did to check if what the Holy Spirit said regarding the crucifixion of Jesus on August 17 is correct or not.  Details are in http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader88...  Is this a sign that God is warning us of the impending calamity around 2012, like the end of the Mayan’s calendar cycle?  But I repeat, 2012 is not the end of the world yet.

The 144,000 marked good people

The Holy Spirit also told us that beings from another planet will take only the marked good people out of this world.  I asked Him if it’s a million.  He said much less than that.  Then I asked if the number is the one mentioned in Revelation and He affirmed it.  A few weeks ago this year, 2008, as I was reading Revelation, I came across Revelation 14:3 to wit (King James Version):  ÃƒÂ¢Ã‚€ÂœAnd they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.”  ÃƒÂ¢Ã‚€ÂœRedeemed from the earth” means saved from the earth.  And there were 144,000 of them.  This must be what the Holy Spirit was referring to several years ago.  

Advice of the Holy Spirit

His advice to all: leave their wicked way of life and change their way of thinking.  We should come back to the true God before it’s too late.  (I read in Isaiah 55:7 this message, to wit (KJV): “Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.”)  Be good then so that we may be considered to be among the 144,000 who will be saved, and later will restart and repopulate this world.  The Holy Spirit told us to tell people about this prophecy even though they accuse us as being out of our minds, crazy or lunatics.  He assured us that this will happen, similar to Noah’s prophecy of the Great Flood which took a hundred years before it was fulfilled.  The ark was the vessel used to save Noah and his family and the animals.  This time, another kind of vessel will be used to save the elect.

  

World War III to start at Spratly Islands

What is also certain to happen very soon (in about 2012 or earlier) is World War III and this is a nuclear war.  This “calamitous war” (as Nostradamus called it) will start from the Philippines, at Spratly Islands in particular.  The Spratly Islands lie on the southeast part of the South China Sea mostly near the coast of the Philippines.  The Holy Spirit told us that the Philippines is the wick of a gas lamp.  Once the wick is lit, it will be on and aglow.  He told us about this prophecy about two decades ago.  He said that the troubles in the Philippines will spread to the whole world until mankind is almost annihilated and a few will remain.  Spratly Islands are being claimed wholly by China, Taiwan and Vietnam; and partly by Malaysia, Brunei and the Philippines.  The area is considered a tinderbox, a flash point.  It is very rich in oil and gas resources, estimated to be more than the reserve of Kuwait.  The high price of oil may trigger the grabbing of these islands and start the war.

Certainty of WW III

Four independent prophecies point to the certainty that this will happen.  These are Nostradamus’ prophecies to happen around this time (quatrains 6:24 and 2:62) , the 56th Chinese prophecy of Tui Bei Tu (the past 55 prophecies have already been fulfilled) found at http://www.alexchiu.com/philosophy/super... and Wikipedia, Revelation 9:18 of the Holy Bible, and those that the Holy Spirit revealed to us.  If you are interested in the details about these prophecies, please send me your request via email.

Spiritual awakening after the war

After the calamitous war, we will have a new age, a spiritual awakening or enlightenment, and peace will reign for a long time in this world.  The population would have been reduced by a third and there will be much arable land that will be available.  People will be living in planned cities and communities.  Would you like to live in a city where the land is free and you are guaranteed possession of the land for 50 years, renewable, and which you can bequeath to an heir?

Come back to the true God now

The Holy Spirit has given His prophecies and these are what will happen.  Be rest assured then that the world will not end yet.  But please, heed what He advises us to do—to change our wicked way of life and change our wrong beliefs.  Come back to the true God now before it’s too late.  There a lot of lessons to study.

The decision to believe rests upon you

I am just sharing with you what I heard and learned from the Holy Spirit.  The decision to believe Him or not depends upon yourself.  I am not forcing anyone to believe in what I share.  It is not my responsibility to save you or anyone, but the person’s.  He is the engineer of the house that he is building.

Reassurance of the true God that He will save us

Isaiah 35:4 (KJV) states: “Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompense; he will come and save you.”

Answer 8

Relax.

The Planet X story and the shopping list are nonsense.

We have real real problems, but the date 2012 is not one of them.

Answer 9

don't worry your pretty little head....prophecy never comes true except by mere coincidence...none of that c**p is real