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This whole planet x thing is confusing me?

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ok so "they" say december 21st 2012 is the end of the world because thats when the ancient mayan calendar ends... i dont believe this... however where did "they" get the idea that a planet is coming to earth which will wipe it out on december 21st 2012 i understand the whole end of the calendar thing is crazy. except where in the world did "they" get the idea of a planet coming out of every other possible outcome

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  1. The concept of the planet Nibiru is based on ancient Sumerian beliefs, I have no idea how it was attached the the 2012 idiocy


  2. The whole "nibiru" idea is so stupid and wrong that it doesn't even make sense. It is just the same as the 2012 mayan calendar c**p.

  3. Take heed but fear not for 2012 is just the revealing of the 'antichrist' or the 'man of lawlessness' at the middle of what Jews and Christians call the 7 year Tribulation. Satanists and many pagan cultures from every corner of the world all throughout history have celebrated this like  the Sumerians, Babylonians, Cherokee, Hopi, Chinese I-Ching (confirmed by Terence McKenna), Mayans (Pacal Votan), Egyptians, Celts, etc. This evil event is called "the abomination that causes desolation" that will be set up in the Jewish Temple’s Holy of Holies when the antichrist is imbued with the power of satan himself. When will Yeshua Ha'Mashiach (Jesus) come? Only God Himself knows, but very soon. If you believe or not, that is up to you; either way it still comes.

    Things to look for to PROVE it to yourself soon:

    >Crash of American banks and its financial underpinning: Operation Sitting Duck

    >Fall of America as an economic power and other ways.

    >The Big One: Revelation 18. America goes down on the list of fabled societies nobody believes in any more like Atlantis, Mu, Lemuria, Hyperborea, etc..

    >Martial law. (Google some of Bush's executive orders concerning it- Nightmarish!)

    >Implementation of Project Bluebeam (be ready to hear more and more 'alien talk'... watch your local skies for the show!) Google and youtube it. Aliens... aliens... aliens...

    >Revelation 13-16-18  Trying to make people first accept the REAL ID card (to get you in the system) and then right after forcibly implanting people with these RFID microchips: http://www.verichipcorp.com/

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=f0gXGTcd6eE

    >The start of the North American Union.

    >Push to attack Iran which will start WW3-the atomic war to end all wars. (If you think China, Russia, and the Muslim world would just sit back, you are a mistaken fool!)

    >Final push to one world government: The New World Order- The 4th Reich!

    (The brutal final empire foreseen by Daniel and John)

    >Rise of a miraculous and awe inspiring world leader later to turn world dictator.

    >Push to one world religion where there are "manys ways to God".

    >Toleration of everything but Jews and Christians.

    >Temporary and unheard of "peace in the middle east".

    >Revelation13:10  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P-hvPJPT...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNPn2JLz7...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epMeGr-wD...

    >More world wide food shortages and famines.

    >More earth quakes. More fires. Strange and severe weather.

    >Major spiritual awakenings.

    >Rise of Islamic fanaticism.

    >Rise in wickedness and corruption.

    >Listen to the wisdom of this young child:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF-gcHe7C...

    *** ALERT: THEY ARE ALREADY PRACTICING [A MUST SEE!]***

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=932Zu4e4iVM

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=plELx_wmNgU

    Christians and Messianic Jews look forward to this as it means they will soon join their Messianic Saviour in the Millennial Kingdom of the next Age and their Heavenly Father later as "Children of Light". If you try to equate 2012 with Y2K or some other date that cried wolf, then you will be making the worst mistake in your life. Research all these things FOR YOURSELF!

  4. You are correct in disbelieving that the ending of a cycle of a calendar can have any significance in terms of physical events. It's just that certain people find it difficult to accept this and try to put together all sorts of nonsensical claims about what will happen. All these claims are pure nonsense. The Planet X claim is the pet crackpot theory of Zecharia Sitchin, who said it would turn up in 2003. It didn't turn up (surprise, surprise), so the 2012 cranks have hijacked it and tried to tell us it has been delayed until 2012 - all total rubbish, of course.

    If you want a good laugh, there are still some old websites telling us about its expected return in 2003. They all seem so earnest about it, don't they.

    http://www.rense.com/ufo5/nib2000.htm

  5. you're hearing the more 'extreme end' of the whole 2012 thing....

    the mayans never said the world would end on 2012 (they didn't say it wouldnt' either) ALL they said was that, that year would be the year of great change... [think of how much life has changed since they were around, yet they only found it significant to mention 'change' in the same year they end their calander) their calander also goes back a long-long-long ways from 2012.... so them ending it on that date is significant of something.... (using logic)

    personally i don't know what will happen... but as i've said i think ti's just as likely we will make the most important discovery to man yet (such as first contact for an example)

    the mayans aren't the only ones who saw this time (this decade and the years just before or after) as 'the end of the world' either.... this prophecy is actually splattered everywhere in ancient history....

    the ancients were also obviously a LOT smarter then anyone today gives them credit for.... everyone assumes because we have computers and machines now we're no longer primitive, but because they didn't have them they were....

    not true.... you're only primitive as long as you don't understand the world around you.... they OBVIOUSLY understood it, seeing as the mayan calander is even more accurate then the one we use today.... also, thousands of years after the calander's conception it's still frighteningly accurate.... thousands of years ago they charted the moon's path, and even today, it's off by CENTIMETERS (the moon is 238,900 miles away.... their calculations are only off by centimeters....)

    there's a few documentaries around on the subject (and i mean reputable documentaries from like BBC.... not no youtube BS) that gives you the facts of everything surrounding this prophecy....

    i've never believed in a doomsday EVER.... i was practicly the only one around my area at the time not freaking out over 2000..... i started researching into this subject when i was trying to find information to disprove it....

    but everytime i find something to credibly disprove it.... i find something else that backs it up as well.... the result is what i am now.... genuinely confused on what to expect... i believe something is going to happen soon.... like i said too many cultures tying significance to this general era to just say life will continue on as it has for another 3,000 years....

    SOMETHING is going to happen.... the only question is what....  

  6. It is confusing you because it is a bunch of lies and delusion and has no basis in reality.

    By early in July 2008 questions about 2012 had been asked more than 10,000 times.  I have given a version of this answer more than 140 times.  See also -

    http://robotics.caltech.edu/~mason/Delus...

    This stuff is all lies and fraud to get people buying faked up books, videos, watching nonsense shows on TV and directing traffic to fraudulent websites.

    Pole shifts - no, not a chance.  The Earth’s axis of rotation is stabilised by the Moon’s gravity.  

    Magnetic poles flip - no, they will just keep moving as usual.  They are likely to change ends at some time in the geologically near future but it will take hundreds to thousands of years to happen.  Meanwhile, the magnetic field will not disappear, but it will probably get more complex.  

    Mayan calendar - one of their calendars ends in 2012 because they ran out of numbers in a count of days.  They made no prediction attached to this and even if they had, it would be astrology and that has been disproved so many times that it's not worth any more words. The "prediction" was by two fake scholars who wrote a fraudulent book about the Mayans.  One of them had already claimed that the Great Pyramid of Egypt was 15,000 years old, another lot of nonsense.  

    Solar maximum - expected in 2011, maybe 2012 and it happens every 11 years anyway.

    Predicted planetary “alignments” are completely false.  The positions of the planets will be about as far from an "alignment" as you can imagine.  The next "alignment" of the major planets is expected sometime after the Sun burns out.  Even if it did happen the question would arise "So what?"  Where is the physical connection between Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn etc?  

    Gravity?  Like to calculate how strong the gravitational effects of Mars, Jupiter and Saturn is on Earth?  Multiply the masses of the planets together, divide by the square of the distance between them and then multiply by the gravitational constant, which is a rather small number.  Now add them all together and you still don't have a hill of beans.

    Newton knew how to do this about 300 years ago, but our planetary alignment freaks never care to do the calculation because the result would make them look as silly as they are.  

    Venus will transit the Sun in June 2012, just as it did in 2004 and on a regular cycle before that.  No noticeable effect then except on astronomers, some of whom will take measurements, no expected effect this next time.

    Planet X / black hole / brown dwarf / wandering planet - No.  It was predicted for 2003 by a loony woman who claimed telepathic contact with aliens.  No sign of it then and still no sign of it.  If this big nasty exists it must be quite close by now and visible with a fairly ordinary astronomical telescope.  Where is it?  The assumption that it can only be seen from the southern hemisphere and therefore astronomers don’t see it is nonsense, there are many large optical and some radio astronomical telescopes in Chile and Australia.  It did not happen in 2003 so the frauds have put it on the 2012 bandwagon.

    Nibiru was originally a separate scare and depends on some faked-up scholarship by a fraud called Z. Sitchin.  He claimed to be able to read cuneiform, a script used by Babylonians among others.  He could not but others can.  He stole some of their work, invented the rest and claimed that some old Babylonian texts talked of a planet with a 3600 year orbit that passed close to Earth.  This planet was inhabited by aliens who landed on Earth to enslave people into producing gold for them.  There is no record of this 3600 years ago.

    In fact Nibiru is an old Mesopotamian name for the planet Jupiter, which will be staying right in its accustomed orbit, thank you very much.  Sitchin disagreed with the "Planet X" loony though both of them were liars or frauds.  

    25,800 year cycles.  This is called "precession of the equinoxes" and was discovered a bit more than 2100 years ago. It has been happening since the Earth formed billions of years ago and will not stop, start or change direction in 2012.    There is no particular significance in the direction the poles of rotation happen to be pointing at present or in 2012.  

    The Bible codes were disproved within months of the first book coming out, similar coded messages can be found in any random book or even newspapers using the same "anything goes" methods faked up by the author, Michael Drosnin.  He used the codes to predict a nuclear war starting in 1997.  Oops.  Another liar.

    Revelation - nobody ever made sense of those febrile maunderings, the evidence for that is that there are so many different interpretations.  It has been used to predict the end on dozens of dates from the year 500AD right up to April 2008.

    Nostradamus never predicted anything accurately and he may not have intended to. It seems some of his verses were about events in his own lifetime.  Many editions of his quatrains contain faked verses inserted long after he died. Anyone who quotes Nostradamus as predicting anything is a liar or a fool.

    Galactic central plane - we are near it, so astronomers say, but we have always been near it, though nobody actually knows exactly where it is.  No exact "alignment" is possible because of the angle of the ecliptic to that of the galactic central plane.  A rough “alignment” of Sun, Earth and the galactic centre happens twice every year and nothing happens.  Even if there was an exact “alignment”, the question would be "So what?"

    Photon belt - this one is almost the silliest of the lot.  The Earth was expected to enter this region in 1997 with remarkable effects.  Oops.  The “photon belt” is also said to be around the "7 Sisters".  Our solar system is heading away from them, not towards them.  It does not exist anyway.  More lies.

    This is all fake scholarship, pseudo-science, lies, superstition and abject delusion.  

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