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Those of you who insist global warming doesnt exist....what if you are wrong?

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Lets say it doesnt exist,what is the harm in taking better care of our planet?On the other hand what if it did exist and we did nothing to stop it?I would rather be wrong and have made the effort to control pollution and other things that may damage our planet,than assume its not true,be wrong and ruin the only planet we have.

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  1. If we are wrong then plant life will flourish all over the planet and maybe some of the coldest regions on earth will be hospitable to life again.

    There are coal veins under the antarctic ice caps, now how did those get there ?


  2. Are we starting to admit we were wrong or at least a little gullible, listening to alarmists? HUMMMMMM

  3. Futile attempts to stop global warming will result in loss of personal freedoms as well as massive economic displacement.

  4. We all share the same fate.

    Who accepts the blame?

    Us Catholics?

    The government?

    The Scientist?

    Our Children.. yes

    we don't know

    Things have moved on so fast we are not elders we are children with Kalashnikov

  5. Cindy W---you are hilarious!

    Seriously, you should think about hitting the road on a one-woman-comedy tour.

    You're right, there is NO evidence to support global warming...none....only the collective agreement of 99% of scientists and 99.9% of scientists NOT funded by the oil/auto industry.

    Scientists must have some nefarious, secret plan to undermine the stability of the world by spewing false reports, opinions, studies and warning on global warming.  Why else would they waste their life's work trying to enact environmental planning and protection?

    I feel sorry for you.

    What will happen?

    Severe resource shortages leading to violent conflict and a dramatic reduction of the human population to a level more in line with the carrying capacity of our ecosystem.

    If we're lucky and global warming only leads to a reduction in human population and not an extinction, then the future could be okay.  We'll have learned a thing or two and there will be a dramatic reorgaziation of society, wealth and power.

  6. The largest arguments against such action are also coming from the same folks whom felt that unfettered free markets are the way of things, and that any regulation is bad regulation.

    (See Bear-Stearns, Enron). What is needed (and largely absent) is simple responsibility for our actions individually and collectively, but since there is a tone-deafness on a non-trivial amount of the citizenry in the US, it's unlikely that until it's painfully obvious - i.e.; 10-20 years of consistent "dry seasons" in what used to be considered "growing season" in Kansas or Nebraska will those voices of dissent be muted.

    I often remember a recent trip to Australia to a family winery, the winery was reduced - from a couple of hundred acres, to 16 acres of arable land - covered in moisture nets, Herds of cattle were reduced to a little more than 50 head ranging over the remainder of the property (reduced from grassland to desert scrub), primarily because of an extended lack of rainfall and slightly increased temperatures.

    They don't debate global warming in Australia, in quite the same way as we do here, they are dealing with it, but the costs are pretty steep, they don't even complain about the additional taxes for desalinization plants or mandatory rationing or hyper efficient household appliances and fixtures, farmers complain about the loss of arable land and salt creep in their water table.

    Nobody rants on those concerned about their farms or "the environment" or "about the weather" as being liberally or conservatively inclined.

    There simply was - until recently - not alot of rain. While it's started raining again, it was a very long drought, from which it will take years to recover, and there is nothing to suggest it couldn't return.

    So conservatives and their pundits in the US "debate'' the various merits of GW, but the farmers in Georgia or Montana or California don't. The residents of Atlanta and other parts of the Southeast whom don't have enough well-water to drink, let alone water their crops or feed their livestock don't debate it in quite the same way I bet.

    The circumstances of the world will conscribe the folks whom deny it's happening until they have to resort to anecdotal evidence where "nothing has happened" - yet, and the world will hopefully long since have passed them by and started doing what is in the national interest - anyway.

    Like evangelicals whom think basic biology or genetics is false or the guys whom think there is an infinity of oil in the ground, and can't quite fathom how come gas prices are so high. You, I or they can choose to believe - anything we want, but common sense should not be constrained to such insular and concribed thinking.

    To be perfectly fair, I think that self-directed mass individual or "grassroots" collective action is more desirable than mandatory action, but I also understand that many people whom need to change - won't unless they are compelled to.

    I think that rightly so, there are those whom are concerned this opens the door for expansive authoritarian regimes surrounding compliance to conservation laws or whatever measures are considered necessary, but I would rather see that the largest percentage of our citizenry had made the right decisions in this matter so as to make such Draconian steps un-necessary.

    Ironically, it's those whom deny this stuff is going on, whom will complain the loudest when it starts to affect them in any material sense.

    It's sad to see but considering the body politic of the US it's definitely not unexpected.

  7. That's the thing....  It is all about a what if...  What if the tooth fairy actually existed?  What if Santa Claus got mad at me?  There is absolutely no facts correlating CO2 to any type of warming effect, yet you guys are dedicated like a cult to professing it does and are brainwashing or at least trying to brainwash others into believing the myth as well.

  8. If I'm wrong, oh well. Global warming, as we know it, is a scam.

  9. They are idiots and need to open there eyes.  The non believers are the ones who will cause the death of Earth and us.

  10. The small amount of actual warming and how slow it increases gives us plenty of time to make sure we get true info as to what to do if anything actually would help. Making us broke by spending huge sums for unproven science would make us vulnerable in national security and also to the scammers who are drooling to rape the American people over this. Plus once government intervention starts there is no going back even if proven otherwise.

  11. I totally agree with you!

    They're only idiots, we should ignore them.

  12. I'm NOT paying extra taxes or surcharges "just in case".

    Ultimately, those items will do nothing to help the planet, if it were true, but rather pad somebody's slush fund.

  13. It would get warmer than it otherwise would have.

    Now we have to establish that that is even a bad thing.

  14. There's nothing wrong in believing in AGW if it trips your trigger. But let's not start passing new legislation based on a theory.

  15. I'm all for taking care of this planet but I also believe it's really presumptious man short of a full nuclear exchange can make such a drastic change in a planet.  For those who think only humans can make or break this Earth I for one laugh at their arrogance.

  16. The small amount of actual warming and how slow it increases gives us plenty of time to make sure on how to help.

    By spending huge sums for something without research is a waste of money.

    People seem to make it bigger than it is without proven facts.

  17. yeh lol because my washing machine causes the increase of the worlds temperature me n greenpeace will take over the world!!

    u sad ******* its propaganda!!! government media propaganda!!!!

    "Governments are trying to achieve unanimity by stifling any scientist who disagrees. Einstein could not have got funding under the present system"

    this is a theory

    two sides to a debate and i will protect the truth

    http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doci...

  18. Climate Change is real..of course it is!

    The Climate is never stagnant, it changes constantly..it has been doing so for billions of years, since the earth ever had an atmosphere. That being said, how can we possibly say that humans are to blame for climate change, and to go even further. How can we even begin to think that we can stop climate change!?

    The world will be fine.

    There is alot of misinformation, and alarmists out there with there own agendas who are scaring the c**p out of people. But really, there is nothing to worry..the earths atmosphere has changed dramitically in the past, and it will continue to do so long after humans are nothing but fossils.

  19. I suggest you look at what the EPA estimates the Lieberman-Warner Climate bill will cost the US economy if you think there's no harm. By 2050 the annual cost will be up to 2.856 TRILLION dollars to get (by 2098) a total decrease of 25 ppm. China alone will be adding far more than that amount by 2098 so what is the point?

    The Earth has gotten warm before, if you believe in geology then you know there are frequent and long-lasting ice ages. We're somewhat overdue for this warming period between ice ages to end so a little warming may not be entirely bad. I don't argue that we'll all be better off once we're stop using petroleum for fuel, but this seems more like a power grab by the UN than genuine concern for the planet.

    What if we take major steps such as launching billions of disks to block sunlight in the upper atmosphere or seed the oceans with iron to stimulate algae growth and then find that it's actually getting cooler? Won't that turn out to be a laugh? The current solar cycle is extremely weak and we've just finished a very cold winter, I wonder if there could be any connection between those two events. Hmmm.

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