Those that are trying to push intelligent design. how do you know that the designer isnt malevolent?

Question

nature red of tooth and claw plus plenty of parasites and other nasty critters point towards a designer that is in fact malevolent. I dare you to prove this hypothesis wrong.

Answer 1

I'd be really interested in hearing what the design intent was behind variola major (smallpox).  It only infected humans and it had a mortality rate of about 30% or so.

Answer 2

"He who made kittens, made snakes in the grass"...

"Tyger, Tyger, burning bright....

Did he who made the Lamb, make thee?"

Answer 3

I always use 3 common examples that I find good...

1. Animal Suffering.

2. Natural Disasters

3. The Degree of Suffering.

Answer 4

The problem with the Intelligent Design theory is that it does not identify the designer (this is why it is illogical and creates no new knowledge).

ID could be used to support Allah or the Flying Spaghetti Monster equally with God.  

Answer 5

what do you want, a care bear world? i think he kept a little balance. people dont believe in intelligent design because everything here is awesome and fun and harmless, but because they are in awe of the universe.

Answer 6

It's an interesting point. If intelligent design proponents are not a front for old time creationism as they claim, i guess that they would have to concede the possibility.

Answer 7

because bible says intelligent designers are always very nice.

Answer 8

Well the intelligent designer cannot have been very bright since human evolution in just the last few hundred years has changed us considerably!!

If you go back thousands of years - even if it is only the six thousand that fundies cling to - mankind has changed greatly.

So was the original design flawed or is man better than their own designer?

Evolution is a far more sensible and credible answer than intelligent design ever could be!!

Answer 9

That's because there is something wrong between God and humanity. Man has rebelled agaisnt his creator, and therefore is under the curse of sin and death.

But that's not God's fault. He demonstrated His love for us by dying for us while we were still in rebellion against Him.  

Answer 10

Given how humans and other animals suffer throughout their existence, a malevolent god is more plausible than a benevolent and loving one.  But believing in the loving god makes people feel good about their lives, so they believe that.  Logically plausibility be damned,  

Answer 11

I'm not familiar with it ... but intelligent design just means there is an intelligent creator who made the world no? Umm he's intelligent yes ... but why does he have to be good?

Answer 12

Fortunately we know quite a lot about this Intelligent Designer. How? He has revealed Himself to us.

We know that those nasty things were not there when He created this world. He pronounced everything "good" after the creation. But then something terrible happened. A simple test that He had given to the first human pair, to whom He had given the authority over everything on this earth, failed in their test and rebelled against God. As a result God said that the earth would not be under their control. It would bring out "thorns and thistles", and all the misery we see today, as a reminder of how we got here.....that our safety and security lies in being obedient to the only One who can control the powers of nature. Not only that, He has promised to restore this creation to its original state again - some day soon!

Answer 13

An interesting view.

Of course, to prove your theory true, I'd have to accept intelligent design as real and I'm not that strung out tonight.

Answer 14

I don't.  Simple as that.

But given this Universe is some 200-billion years old (give or take), if The Creator were malevolent, they are obviously either very patient or have run out of ways to inflict pain.  Either of which seems illogical.

Answer 15

You mean animals that live off of other animals proves a evil God.

No in no way does that prove God is evil.

Snakes eat mice, spiders kill insects. Flies even have a purpose.

So do other nasty critters as you call them.

They do not prove God is malevolent

Answer 16

I think you are forgetting about Hanlon's razor:

"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity"

I think that the evidence shows that if there is a designer, then they're clearly an incompetent moron.

Answer 17

"... It would be perfectly consistent with all we know to say that there was a Being who was responsible for the laws of physics". Stephen Hawking....American Scientist,  73, (1985).

Check out this book,  "The Case for a Creator", by Lee Stroble

Answer 18

Michael Behe (a prominent IDiot) apparently thinks the designer IS malevolent:

"Here's something to ponder long and hard: Malaria was intentionally designed. The molecular machinery with which the parasite invades red blood cells is an exquisitely purposeful arrangement of parts."

-Michael Behe, The Edge of Evolution

http://www.evolvedrational.com/2008/05/l...

Answer 19

If it were a double dare, I might have indulged you in intellectual warfare. But I know longer give into temptations so degrading.