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To Utopia, would you agree?

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That Utopia be built on the notion 'Justice is absolute power', that those who are most just most fair and most righteous have the most power in all means; physical and social.

That the strongest person in the world is the bearer of a mind that understands equality in humanity, with that being said also a mind that is most humane. That sees things as they are, judges as most reasonable.

That those who are arrogant, crimminal and unjust be the weakest and frailest people possible.

ls this the key concept on which Utopia should be found on?

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  1. We, humans.. are not equal.  No matter how you make a society, there will be weak and strong, top dogs and bottom feeders.  Humans, are not even close to equal.

    In my perspective, a "perfect place" is where nobody suffers.  Therefore it can never exist, because someone will always suffer.


  2. utopia should be built upon equality

    because in a perfect world

    everybody is equally happy

    and in a perfect world

    there are no arrogant, criminal or unjust aspects

    in the minds of many, what you've said is just the logical approach to humanity at present

  3. Whose justice?  Whose version of righteousness?  Whose concept of fairness?  

    I am not being facetious, simply trying to point out that  these moral concepts are not amenable to standardization - as the diversity of cultures and opinions the world over heartily attest.  

    Utopia is an ideal, not something to be engineered.  It can not be attained, only considered speculatively and critically and striven for - but not through the elaboration of government.

    Personally, I believe the only true utopia is to be found within people and, possibly, between them, at the level of individual intersubjectivity.  

    On the other hand, if you want something to be made into a compromise or a mess, by all means, give it to social engineers, government or whatever passes as hegemony to handle as soon as possible.

  4. First, you're assuming that there would always be ONE, and ONLY one such person.

    Second, what's better is to not have an absolute ruler. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. People do change, so even if there's one person who's thoroughly humane, that doesn't mean they'll always stay that way.

    Spreading power is a much better idea.

  5. But who defines what is just and righteous? Those are subjective words.

    In order for a Utopia to exist there would have to be an absolute. And if everyone is equal there can't be an absolute because who's to say who has the right to define an absolute?

    Thus, an absolute would have to be created by a higher power. Assuming an absolute was created by a higher power but there is no objective evidence to prove the existence of that higher power, well then you simply have a religion.

    Which is pretty much our world. And that's why a utopia can't exist.

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