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To atheists: What do you have to lose...?

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If there were a God. And what would the Christian stand to lose if there isn't?

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  1. *drink*

    I can't believe people still ask this.....


  2. Pascal's Wager on a Monday? A MONDAY?

    Peace.

    EDIT: Nobody is seriously mistaking you for somebody called Pascal. The device that you are using is called Pascal's Wager and was invented by said Pascal.

    It's also a drinking question, so...

    *Drink*

  3. 4 pence and a bit of chewing gum

  4. Any God who condemned me for not believing in him, despite me never having done anything really bad in my life, i wouldn't want to worship. If God is all forgiving as many people claim, i have nothing to lose by not believing in him. I don't think religious people have anything to lose if god didn't exist, many will have got comfort from their beliefs and if there's no God, they wont be punished for thinking there was.  

  5. This Pascal moment has been brought to you by.........

  6. If there were a god?  I would rather burn in h**l than serve that entity.  He/It created me to serve him.  I call foul.  He put me on this earth with free will and the inbred desire to sin and tells me that I cannot or he will punish me forever.  God is a angry kid with a magnifying glass and I am an ant.  I want nothing to do with him.

    What does a Christian have to lose if there is no god?

    Speaking from the fact that I am a former Christian untill I saw the light.

    Everything.  Their life, their hopes and dreams.  To find that my life was based on a lie would be devastating.  To find that I did not do things because of fear.  To find that I treated all those people badly because a non entity told me to.  To find out that I created a god in my own image.  I would fall into a derpession that no drug would bring me out of.

  7. Geez the first time I've seen Pascal's Wager in a long time.

    I have to lose my dignity, my intelligence, my understand, even my morals, perscribing to a belief that has no evidence. Following a possible religion when I could be doing more productive and interesting things with my time, than blindly saying words over and over to invoke a deity that does not exist.

    And Christians, well, just put what I wrote above into context of a Christian.

  8. what do you have to lose if it's Thor? Zeus? FSM? the list is endless so why pick one?

    *drink*

  9. If I spend my life worshipping the wrong god, I could get pwnd.  If I worship no god, I'm neutral - maybe I'll be rewarded for that, and maybe not.  My argument makes as much sense as Pascal's so I think I'll just have another

  10. This sounds so much like Pascal's Wager.

    You'd probably have to ask the Christians about the second question.  

  11. If a god exists, then there is a very good chance that it isn't the Christian one.

  12. A entire life wasted pretending that an evil magical fairy is forcing me to behave in unnatural ways is certainly more than nothing to lose.

  13. *Cheers*

    http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/t...

  14. Pretty sure I'd lose my spot in Heaven then. Since I'm an atheist I'd be off to h**l.

  15. You lose time spent talking (praying) to an imaginary friend, time spent going into a place with other people who share the same imaginary friend, time spent singing songs to your imaginary friend, money (that is spent on helping more people know about this imaginary friend, money that could have instead, been spent on charity), time convincing other people that your imaginary friend is better than theirs and time spent on other activities that this imaginary friend of yours wants you to do.

  16. If there is a god there is about a 1/1,000,000 chance (very optimistic - this is assuming that some god some human worships is THE god) of you having chosen the right one. That is close enough to zero as far as I am concerned!

    Pascal passed away in 1651. For some reason this (flawed) idea of his is constantly used as a reason to believe in god(s).

  17. My dignity. I like keeping it.


  18. If there is a just and benevolent god, nothing - he would understand I am a reasonably good guy. If there is a black-hearted childish tyrant god, I would be boned anyway. If I stuck to bronze-age superstition and laws, I would lose my sanity and 5000 years of social evolution.

  19. My self-respect, my common sense, my dignity. *drink*

    Your name may not be Pascal, but your reasoning is the twin of his wager. What would a monotheist have to lose if polytheism was the true way?  

  20. Wow...Pascal would be happy to know he has become a legend.

  21. I would stand the same risk as the Christian;

    What if His name was Allah?

  22. I bet £5 at Ladbrokes (at infinity - 1) - so QUITE A LOT!

  23. My common decency.

    All of the Gods I have heard of are total monsters. They are murderous, sadistic, judgemental, jealous, genocidal, cruel, ruthless...

    And that's just the ones like the Christian god who claim to be good and loving (I should have added - they are all liars too).

    Not once have I come on here without some religious zealot trying to strip decent people of their basic human rights and dignity because of the way they are born, their gender etc etc.

  24. My old friend Pascal...you have many disguises...

  25. I'm not atheist, but I'm not going to forego my standards and ideals just because of someone missed the inanity of the stance that "1 million people can't be wrong".

  26. I'm a Buddhist.  I would lose that.  Get it?

  27. What would I have to lose if I believed in Santa?  As long as it made me happy, and gave me hope?

    It's not okay though, it's silly, isn't it?

  28. Well according to them, nothing, and according to us, everything, we are accusedof forcing others to believe our faith, but they are the ones forcing our kids to learn their ways, yet we will die for our beliefs, I think that may be rare on their side. ironic, huh?

    There are no atheists in foxholes

  29. What do you have to lose if there is Santa?

    And what would the Santa believers stand to lose if there isn't?

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