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To get an abortion is a right what rights does the father have of his DNA?

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Lets face it half of the child is his blood so should he have any say in the matter?

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  1. I agree with what you're saying. The problem is that the situation is not 50:50. Yes it's 50% his DNA but it's also 50% hers, not only that but the woman has the extra burden of having to give birth, which results in all kinds of health issues (whether they be complications or simple side effects of pregnancy).

    In a perfect world, both partners should have an equal say in whether an embryo is terminated but if they both disagree then there's no way to make an actual decision. Regardless of the moral arguments, women simply have more at stake when they become pregnant. It's imperfect but there isn't a better option. It's not an argument about equality because equality would lead to counter-productive stalemates. It's a balance of consequence and women have to bare a larger burden.

    The only real solution is for BOTH parties in a sexual partnership to take responsibility by making sure that they each understand that pregnancy is not wanted if it's not and if so contraception MUST be used. Abortion should be the LAST option for dealing with unwanted pregnancy, it is a tragic and overused option for people who should have been more concious of the consequences of unprotected s*x when they had the chance.


  2. "He had control of his DNA up until he decided to put it into her body. After that, everything happens inside her body, and no...he has no say over it."

    I agree with that Tracey. So, you're basically saying 'do away with mandatory child support if the father doesn't express interest'.

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    I admire your answer Liz.

  3. I agree with you, but if put in the situation I would take the man's opinion into consideration, but not go solely off of what he wants. Because at the end of the day, I am going to spend 9 months pregnant, I'm going to get fat and have stretch marks, go through the intense pain of childbirth, and for the rest of my life have a child in the world that I am responsible for. It is a huge physical, emotional, financial, etc commitment. It would change my life completey in terms of working, being able to travel, losing a lot of freedoms I am not ready to give up yet.. So at the end of the day, I would do what I want.

    Unless it was later in life, my husband and threatened my marriage, happiness, etc. My response is based off of being in my early 20's, having a boyfriend and not being engaged/married, and having a career that I am trying to build.    

  4. He had control of his DNA up until he decided to put it into her body. After that, everything happens inside her body, and no...he has no say over it.

    If you spit on the sidewalk, you don't "own" that piece of sidewalk because your DNA is there.

    Edit: Ben, once children are born, they need to bed fed and clothed and it's the responsiblity of both parents to do so.

  5. I agree with you. The man should have more rights. Or at least a reduced child support penalty.

    If a man gets a woman pregnant - GAME OVER. He is fu*ked. He has NO SAY whether she aborts or keeps the child, and if she does keep it, the poor basta*d has to pay child support for a long, long time.

    Moral of the story: Don't be a fool, wrap your tool.

  6. I can understand this, but at the end of the day it's not his body that's i's growing in and mostly it's not him who will have sole responsibility.

    Why doesn't he talk about consequences BEFORE having s*x..

  7. Abortions aren't a right.  I don't care what the Supreme Court says.  The Supreme Court once said that blacks couldn't be citizens of the United States (Dred Scott v. Sanford, 1857).  Was that infallible too?

  8. oh boy.  you've set yourself up for the usual "he has the right to keep it in his pants" line

  9. Since it takes two to make a baby, I believe a man should have a say in the matter. If his partner wants an abortion, then he has a right to say he doesn't want his child to get aborted if he's willing to take full responsibility for the child.

    The woman may be carrying the baby with her body, but the baby's blood comes from both parents.

    As unfair as it is, the woman has all the rights regarding her unborn child because it's in her body. So the only thing a man can do is to talk about the consequences before having s*x with any woman.

    Edit:

    I believe a man doesn't have a right to force a woman to get an abortion, but he should have a right to escape the responsibility and not pay child support.

  10. He has a right to his opinion, he has a right to object, make suggestions... he has all kind of rights. He just has slightly LESS than she does, it being her body and all... he gets outvoted.

    And if he's too stupid to figure out how a condom works, what's his opinion worth?

  11. Once the fetus has been aborted, he can claim his DNA from it. Having his DNA is in HER BODY, does not give him the right to tell her to be an incubator for it.  

  12. He should have no say in the matter.

    It is up to the woman.  End of story.

  13. At least you are asking this before someone is already pregnant with *your* DNA.   (I hope!)

    The problem as I see it, it that men argue that the fetus/child will be half his and that entitles him to make decisions.  As if the fetus/child were some kind of property.

    It's not real estate, people!  The fetus may contain his DNA, but as long as gestation occurs in a female body, you really don't have the legal right to decide what the woman should or should not do.

    Suppose the situation were reversed, and you had a womb to carry a fetus.  What rights would you give to your partner over the use of your body?

  14. i really don't understand how people don't see the many paradoxes in our culture that can cause a person to go insane simply over a choice he or she wants to make. I mean, a man can't have a say in whether or not an abortion is performed, but usually, in custody trials, men end up losing the children, and end up having to pay child support. It's always the man's fault if his female counterpart get's pregnant and he doesn't want to have the child, regardless of whether or not the woman wants it--has anyone taken notice to the amount of birth control available to women vs. the amount available to men?(if i could take a pill to prevent impregnation, i would--GLADLY).  

    i have a 9 month old daughter, and if my girlfriend was pro-choice(moreso less afraid of being traumatized by the experience), i wouldn't have her. now, i love her like nothing else, and it's a great experience being a father, but i'd make the same decision i made the first time if there was a time machine.

    I think some of you people need to climb down off of your crosses and step into the real universe--a person's choice is just that.Also, regardless of what your preacher may tell you, people make mistakes, and sometimes they just want it to be fixed without feeling like it'll ruin the rest of their life if they don't fix it.  They come to these forums looking for answers and honest(not biased, spoon-fed from generation to generation criticisms) OPINIONS.

    None of us here(earth) know what life is--science can't even accurately define it, even in the age in which we live. we can assign characteristics, but even those falter given the test of time and proper critiquing and reassessment.

    then there's the matter of consciousness--i'm not even going to step into that door on this post...

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