Told to lie by the army to the army.

Question

i have joined the army national guard and was told to lie at meps by my recruiter. I have epilepsy as well as blackouts, I have also found that the recruiter has also lied to me to get me to enlist. I was told that the weekends once a month pay around $500 for each one and after recieving my first check from them a whole $88 i am having second thoughts about what else he lied about. Is it possible to just get my medical records and come forward or is this gonna be more trouble than help. Turns out the army must not even look at medical records. Can someone please answer me an honest answer?

Answer 1

Report him directly or go to the medical officer and tell him but I also suspect that if you have lied on enlistment papers then at the very least you will get a DD. "I was told to lie" is not really a good excuse

Answer 2

kiddo,have you thought that you may be a danger to your units mission and your buddies if you have an attack? If you have not had an attack in years and are not on meds all you need is a waiver. This is the most important aspect of your question

your pay problem is probably that they gave you the $400,000 life insurance.that happened to my son when it first went to rsp. When you talk to them about it bring your wife if you have one or a parent if you dont. Things happen fast When there is a witness, but it is really easy to brush off a Private.

if you really want out go talk to the JAG

Answer 3

Get the name of your recruiter and report him. He can't be enlisting people like this. If you have epilepsy and blackouts, that could be real trouble.

Answer 4

Contact your command immediately and tell them the whole story.  Be sure to have the name and contact information for the recruiter.  The fact that he would encourage you to lie with health issues that could prove life threatening to not only you but to those around you (especially if no one had any idea what was going on and you had a seizure) if deplorable.  I have no doubt they will simply discharge you.  Be aware though that you will have to give back any signing bonuses you recieved, but I feel it is far better to loose any money than run the risk of being seriously hurt.

Answer 5

1. Report your recruiter to your unit personnel office.

2. Present your civilian records to your unit and have them begin the process of discharging you for a pre-existing disqualifying condition. The source below is the medical standard.

Answer 6

If it's what you're trying to do, you can get out pretty easily if you just tell someone about your medical problems. If you have your medical records that show these things, it will definitely help. Take the other advice and definitely report the recruiter. These bad recruiters need to learn a lesson. I know they're in a numbers crunch right now, but there's no excuse for deceiving someone just to get them to enlist. Good luck with everything.

P.S. I know how you feel, after enlisting in the Marine Reserves I found out my recruiter lied about tons of stuff, not only to me but to my parents' faces. He also said about $500 a weekend (which is outrageous) and it turns out its about $100 a weekend.  

Whoever said he would get a Dishonorable is full of it, they only give those following a court-martial and I highly doubt they would go through all that trouble for a "lying to enlist" case. It will most likely be an Administrative Discharge, especially if you've been in for less than 6 months.

Answer 7

For one- You should know that lying about a condition that serious is NEVER a good idea

For two-That is why you do your research before talking to a recruiter....its easy as pie to find out how much money you will make in the military,there are tons of websites that break it down,active or reserve and your rank...all you have to do is google or yahoo it

Answer 8

You have a very interesting way of looking at this; in fact you were told to lie by an individual to the Army National Guard, the fact this individual is a recruiter would actually have nothing to do with this as you must have been told at one point or another to be be 100% truthful and factual in filling out the Medical Examination Questionnaire forms at the MEPS station.  Should you come forward now claiming you have epilepsy and blackouts I guarantee you that they will be checking your medical records to ensure this wasn't a pre-existing condition.

A PV1 with less than 4 months of service is paid $160.52 for a full drill weekend, a PV1 with more than 4 months of service receives $173.52 for a full drill weekend and a PV2 mades $194.52 for the full drill weekend.  A full drill weekend is a MUTA-4 (Multiple Unit Training Assemblies 4) which is Saturday morning, Saturday afternoon, Sunday morning and Sunday afternoon.  If you were not there for all four pay periods you are only paid for the periods you were present.

If you in fact have epilepsy and are prone to blaclouts than you are in fact unfit for any type of military service.  You should make a full disclosure to your chain of command...