Top 10 Heavyweight s All Time?

Question

Who Beats Who list

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Accomplishments list

Answer 1

IN THE RING

1. Muhammad ALI: We might never have seen just how much greater he could have been.

2. Joe Louis: Perfect Boxer.  He could fight comfortably at 210 if he had to.  That would help him deal with the dinosaurs.

3. Larry Holmes:  Larry had it ALL.  Only ALI's lateral movement would cause problems.  Holmes would have been forced to FIGHT Louis who has an edge in power and hand speed.

4. Lennox Lewis: Not very popular with many but he's the Only BIG Man (over 235) who can fight.  I give him 50/50 against Louis because of the size difference.  Larry and ALI are both big enough to take enough punches but do more damage and stop Lennox.  If he were more aggressive he might be higher.  

5. George Forman: George lost to ALI but he would never have lost to Jimmy Young had he not fought ALI first.  He wasn't THAT bad at boxing.  He just fell into the bad habit of relying too much on his power.  

6. Evander Holyfield: He's tough as nails with a heart the size of Georgia.  He doesn't punch as hard as some but he's very accurate.  He's probably the best pure "Boxer" on the list.  

7. Mike Tyson: Another who is'nt very popular on this board.  Still, there isn't much the rest could do against Mike's blend of early SPEED and POWER.  If you can get Mike past 6 you have a very good chance of beating him.  

8. Rocky Marciano: SIZE is the ONLY thing that keeps him from being ranked higher.  Sorry, but 5'10"/188lbs. Just does NOT beat 6'5"/240lbs.  It's just the reality of it.  If Rocky could carry 202lbs. comfortably (which I think he could) he would be higher.  I give him a good chance to extend Tyson past the mid rounds and stop him late.

9. Jack Johnson: He's often ranked so high for 2 reasons.  1. He's the first Black champion.  2. He "Boxed" when his comtemporaries "Slugged".  Fighters didn't know defense during Jack's time.  Still, he had formidable skills.  I Really don't think he would have the answers for Rocky's style.  

10. Sonny Liston: Sonny didn't accomplish much and might have blown Rocky out early.  If he didn't, he would be stopped late.  

11. Jack Dempsey: I just don't buy the ligitimacy of all those early KO's given the rules of the day.  Jack would never have accomplished such a feat with an 8 count rule.

12. Joe Frazier:  A wrecking machine with a heart the size of PA.  Still, consider his average chin and take out the ALI win.  What's left?  

HISTORICAL IMPACT

1. Joe Louis: Most title defense.  A record that will never be broken.  America's Champion.  ALI has just as many reasons to be #1.  Both did more for Black athletes than any other fighter or athelet period.  The only difference is that Joe Louis did it first.

2. Muhammad ALI: NO One has ever given up so much for what he belived in.  He opened a lot of doors for Black athletes and bridged much of America.  ALI was, in so many ways, the opposite of Joe Louis.  

Where Louis dodged traffic and made it to the finish line and died pennyless,  ALI trekked through the sewers and ended up on top of Mt. Everest (or Fugi, h**l, take your pick).  He could easily be number one.  It depends on how you look at it.  Both he and Louis made a LOT of difference.  Louis did it first.

3. Rocky Marciano: He has a lot of short comings when you stack him up against other champions.  Still, Rocky fought everyone around during his time and beat everyone.  You can't argue with perfection.

4. Jack Dempsey: Timing was the best thing for Dempsey.  He fought during a hard time for the US.  He was good for his time and popular forever.

5. Jack Johnson: Read the papers about race problems TODAY.  It's a shame we have not evolved above this ugly side of humanity.  Now go back 100 years.  I'm surprised there hasn't been SOMETHING on the news or HBO about the 100 year anniversary of Johnson's title win.  

6. George Forman:  TWO Georges!  (or half an army if you count all his kids).  Still, what a way to turn around and resurrect a career.  

These are the ones who did special things.  The rest is a small list but none of them did anything that I can consider Special.  Here are their accomplishments.

7. Mike Tyson: Youngest champion.  Patterson could argue that.  His was undisputed.  

8. Larry Holmes: Nearly tied the records of both Louis AND Marciano before taking Michael Spinks lightly and being robbed in the rematch.

9. Jim Jeffries:  Had he not given in to the pressure of the public and returned to face Johnson, it would be HE, not Marciano who could claim FIRST.  Still, it doesn't stop Rocky from doing the same years later.

10. Evander Holyfield:  Some call him "4-time" champ.  That means he surpasses ALI.  Sorry, but there was always SOMEONE who could lay claim to Champion during his 4th win.  

Answer 2

ali

johnson

louis

dempsey

marciano

tunney

holmes

foreman

liston

frazier

Answer 3

1.Joe Louis

2.Muhammad Ali

3.Rocky Marciano

4.Jack Johnson

5.Lennox Lewis

6.Evander Holyfield

7.Jack Dempsey

8.Joe Frazier

9.Larry Holmes

10.Mike Tyson

Answer 4

1. muhummad ali, 2. joe louis, 3. jack johnson, 4. jack dempsey, 5. rocky marciano, 6. mike tyson, 7. larry holmes, 8. evander holyfield, 9. joe fraizer, 10. gene tunney

Answer 5

Muhammad Ali

Joe Louis

Larry Holmes

Rocky Marciano

Jack Johnson

Jack Dempsey

Mike Tyson

Evander Holyfield

Lennox Lewis

James Jeffries

Answer 6

1. Ali

#2. Louis

#3. Marciano

#4. Holmes

#5. Foreman

#6. Johnson

#7. Liston

#8. Dempsey

#9. Frazier

#10. Lewis

Honorable mention: Tunney, Holyfield

Ali beats Louis, due to speed and granite jaw. (Louis vs Conn fight as evidence)

Marciano's undefeated record gives him #3 although he would have a very difficult time with Holmes and Foreman!

Holmes and Foreman would be a great matchup! I give Holmes a slight edge due to boxing ability. Foreman had problems with Young and Ali both boxers

Answer 7

Lets see..

Ali>Foreman

Foreman>Frazier

Douglas>Tyson

Tyson>Holyfield

that's 6.

Answer 8

Louis

Ali

Foreman

Dempsey

Marciano

Holmes

Johnson

Frazier

Liston

Walcott

Anyone who puts Tyson is delusional. He would have been a member of the bum of the month club had he been around in the Loius era.

Answer 9

1. Joe Louis

2. Muhammad Ali

3. Rocky Marciano

4. Larry Holmes

5. George Foreman

6. Jack Johnson

7. Joe Frazier

8. Gene Tunney

9. Jack Dempsey

10. Harry Wills

Answer 10

1.  Muhammad Ali

2.  Joe Louis

3.  Jack Dempsey

4.  Rocky Marciano

5.  Jack Johnson

6.  Ezzard Charles

7.  George Foreman

8.  Evander Holyfield

9.  Larry Holmes

10. Mike Tyson

Answer 11

at random:

ali

marciano

joe louis

frazier

holyfield

foreman

jack dempsey

john sullivan

jim corbett

liston

mike tyson in top ten? that's funny coz he is so over rated.

Answer 12

1.Mike Tyson

2.Rocky Marciano

3.Muhammed Ali

4.George Foreman

5.Joe Louis

6.Joe Walcott

7. Joe Frazier

8.Larry Holmes

9. Jack Dempsey

10.Jack Johnson