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Trinitarians thoughts on 1 Corinthians 11:3?

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1 Corinthians 11:3 - "But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ"

How is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit ahead of Christ? Knowing trinitarians believe Father Son and Holy Spirit are one God, then this cannot be broken apart.

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  1. They are three in one, the Son and the Holy Ghost proceed from the Father. So they are all God, one God, but proceeding from the father. Jesus was Fully Man and Fully God according to the Council of Chaldedon. He was born OF the Virgin Mary, as opposed to in or by. THe Holy Spirit descended on the Apostles at Pentecost from God. He was still God, but in the form of the Holy Spirit. So their are three distinct personalities, but still one God.  


  2. When Jesus was here on earth  he prayed to the father making it very clear to whom our obedience should be to. His obedience was always in accordance to God our father's will  not to  hims own. Even though he knew of his own Deity he became a servant to his disciples showing his humility and service to mankind.  His acts were to be taken as life long lessons for us.  He was Teacher, servant,  our example of God in the flesh. God (Father)  Christ (Son) Holy Spirit(God's Spirit in us). God head over all.

  3. YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN TO THEM... "SOMEONE" HAS BLINDED THEIR EYES AND HEARTS

  4. God the Father and Christ are both of divine nature.

    The husband and wife are both of human nature.

    Their roles are different.

  5. Contextual harmony is essential. When trying to dissuade someone from believing the accuracy of their initial position, you must show more than a mere verse.

  6. When CHrist was on earth He was made lower than GOd and lower than the angels He was human that is what this verse is referring to. Christ is the head of the church. Man is the head of woman.

    It is not easy to realize that God is a spirit capable of things we as humans are not. When Jesus was here He was made human He was God in human form but STILL human form not Spirit. That is why there was the Spirit and tha Father at His baptism. They are 3 distinct beings that make up the ONE Godhead. Without one you don't have the whole God.

    WHen CHrist was here He showed man how to live and what to do and built His church. He is the head of the church.  

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    You are the one that doesn't understand... They are NOT ONE FORM  they are 3 distinct that serve ONE purpose. They obviously can be in different places because we have Holy Spirit living in us all. Holy Spirit is still part of God BUT He can be all over. I don't know how to help you understand I am sorry

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    Once again I am sorry and not trying to annoy you but all throgh this is talking of His human existence how can we imitate spirit? Chapter 11 verse 1

    Also he goes on to say how Christ took bread. We imitate CHrist by behaving in the way He did while He was on earth building His church.

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    We can imitate Jesus because He was here and showed us how to behave... Calmly and turn the other cheek and ask God to forgive when we are offended. That is what I think the verse is referring to just my opinion.

    It is all about Christian order in this chapter women should not try to be men they should pray with their head covered men should not try to be women. I don't see that it disproves the Godhead at all.

    I guess we agree to disagree.

    Oh edit one more time:

    lol

    I do understand what you are saying I can see if you took ONLY this verse from the bible that you would think that it disproves the trinity. But this is not the only verse in the bible and we have to be careful not to ignore the entire bible by focusing on one verse.

    I can give you scriptures that support and you can give me scriptures to reject all day long let the Holy Spirit guide you I will pray for the Holy Spirit to show me the truth. If I have misinformed you I am sorry but I do not feel like i am wrong :)

  7. You are right.  Frankie's answer is correct. There is only TWO beings in the GOD family. God the Father and GOD the Son (aka Jesus the Christ or the WORD) uses the holy (because it is GOD's) spirit to guide and do things for them. It is a POWER they use. READ the book (aka Holy Bible) to prove all things and NOT take the words of a man telling you what the Bible says.

    More on the NO TRINITARIANS thoughts  from the writings of Paul.

    Romans 1:7  To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    1 Corinthians 1:3  Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

    2 Corinthians 1:2  Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Ephesians 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Philippians 1:2  Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Colossians 1:2  To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    1 Thessalonians 1:1  Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    2 Thessalonians 1:2  Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    1 Timothy 1:2  Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

    Philemon 1:3  Grace to you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    NOTICE Paul only recognizes God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. Not one mention of the holy Spirit.

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  8. You could not be more wrong.  The bible in the wrong hands in a dangerous tool.  If they couldnt be identifiable with different forms and functions, it would not be the Trinity.

  9. In this chapter the apostle blames, and endeavours to rectify, some great indecencies and manifest disorders in the church of Corinth; as  the misconduct of their women (some of whom seem to have been inspired) in the public assembly, who laid by their veils, the common token of subjection to their husbands in that part of the world. This behaviour he reprehends, requires them to keep veiled, asserts the superiority of the husband, yet so as to remind the husband that both were made for mutual help and comfort.

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  10. That is Paul speaking, Paul is known to be chauvinistic to say the least.

    BTW, The Son is Jesus the Christ, so the Father and the Holy Spirit are not ahead of Him, but rather they are three equal beings, one God.

  11. Trinitarianism teaches that although the Godhead are equal, They maintain separate functions & roles. These separate functions allow for order, as well as a proper flow of authority, as many companies also utilize.

  12. Jesus=God=Holy Spirit.

  13. Christ, as he is Mediator, acts in all things subordinately to his Father. But we can no more infer that they are not of the same divine nature, because God is said to be the head of Christ, than that man and woman are not of the same human nature, because the man is said to be the head of the woman.

  14. These people are clueless.

  15. Because God is ONE not three. Here's other scriptures that say God and Jesus are separate.

    Mark 10:18.. And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

    Mark 15:34.. And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

    John 1:18..No man hath seen God at any time.

    John 14:28..Jesus said "my Father is greater than I."

    John 17:3..Jesus said...And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

    John 20:17..Jesus said "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God."

    1 Corinthians 3:23.. and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God.

    1 Corinthians 8:6.. But we know that there is only one God, the Father, who created everything, and we live for him. And there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom God made everything and through whom we have been given life.

    1 Corinthians 11:3..But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

    1 Corinthians 15:28 ..Then, when all things are under his authority, the Son will put himself under God’s authority, so that God, who gave his Son authority over all things, will be utterly supreme over everything everywhere.

    2 Corinthians 11:31..The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying.

    Ephesians 1:3.. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,

    Ephesians 1:17 ..that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him.

    1 Timothy 2:5.. For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,

    1 Peter 1:3.. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

    Revelations 1:1..The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

    Revelations 3:12..Jesus said " He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God."

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