Turkey Forms Alliance With Iran Against Kurds? (outrage over the House resolution on the Armenian genocide)?

Question

Using its outrage over the House resolution on the Armenian genocide as a pretext to flout its alliance with the United States.

U.S. ally Turkey and U.S. arch-enemy Iran have formed a military alliance to drive opposition Kurds from bases in northern Iraq they have used since 2004 to launch guerrilla operations inside Iran, rebel leaders told Newsmax at a secret base in the Qandil mountains.

http://jihadwatch.org/

Your thoughts?

Answer 1

Hmmm...Not a bad idea about how to get into war with Iran...  I mean, Bush and Company would know that by bringing up old news about the Armenians would tick off Turkey, and who would Turkey go to, to get help protecting itself?  Since Iran then would be "attacking" Iraq, that would be a PERFECT reason for the US to bring Iran into the "War on Terror" and would just be "Protecting" Iraq from invasion...easy way to explain it to the US.

Maybe Bush isn't as stupid as I thought he was...or maybe it is just because Rove isn't there any longer.  Good way to deceive the US citizens and the world into getting your way.

Now they will have a total monopoly on the worlds oil, bar from Chaves's (no, I don't know how to spell his name)

Answer 2

Good morning to you.

This is no surprise. The Kurds just opened 5 closed borders to Iran recently. That Kurdish Worker's Party has been busy. What happens to the oil pipeline in the area? Oil prices have stalled and are escalating given current events and so forth. The stock market today is expected to start feeling it.

Then you have Putin over there this am in Iran. I know you saw his statements. The Caspian Sea? Cheney is not going to leave this hanging for ?? to s***w it up. And the Chinese pissed over the Dali Lama? WT frick!! Withdrew from tomorrows talks about sanctions w/Iran (as if that is any real surprise)?

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added: the gal has a point, with Castro and his protege Hugo Chavez.... Hmmm and Hillary has already been to Venezuela with her asking price of 100% profit off the top?

fyi Google Tehran Times... it's interesting although filtered to read how they see things !

Answer 3

That’s bad news for bush’s bogged down military… bush can’t handle Turkey jumping in, and he can’t stop them either.

Answer 4

"Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has stepped up political and diplomatic threats in recent days, telling the United States he would cut off U.S. access to the strategic Incirlik airbase in eastern Turkey if the U.S. tried to prevent Turkey from sending troops against the Kurdish bases in northern Iraq."

You know who started this, right???  You know who made the political and diplomatic threats, right?  Nancy Pissosie!

This is all Nancy Pissosies way of trying to undermine the war.  She is bringing up an 100 yr. old issue that was already taken care of by Regan.  She wants Turkey to take action so we will be FORCED to cut and run.  She is putting our troops in more danger and is putting AMERICA in danger of more attacks on our soil.

**FedUp-You need to stop assuming you know who makes all the bad mistakes.  Bush didn't do this.  It was our wonderful Speaker of the House.**

Answer 5

Makes ya miss Constantinople dont it.

Let me get this.

We spend 300,000,000 a day in iraq to kill

15 bad guys and pretend we are

police and candy dispensers

We are suposedly temporary guardians of the nation of Iraq

and we will allow Turkey and Iran to walk in and kill hundreds of thousands of peaceful kurds.

Answer 6

An Iran Turkey alliance is premature at best.  It is more of an alliance of passing convenience.

Historically, the Kurds were owed their own nation by the retreating British70 years ago.  The Kurds helped the allies against the Turks and Germans in both World Wars.

Winston Churchill senior and junior both wrote that they regretted not delivering for their reliable Kurd allies, but the aid the Turks provided against Soviet expansion took precedence in the Cold War era.

Turkey has a large Kurdish district on its borders by Iraq and Iran.  They fear a Kurdish secessionist movement as 20% of Turks are Kurdish

Iran does not want the Kurds to have power, they have enough trouble with the 10% or so of their own population that is Kurdish.

Kurds also have a reputation for not being very religious (although nominally they are Sunni)

"they hold their Islam lightly" is the local phrase.

I think this is the key here.

Iran is run by Shia clerics, Turkey is ostensibly secular and Sunni, but the AKP party in power got their votes from the under educated religious groups there.  Iraq's frail little government would lose everything if the most stable part of the country (and 20% of the population) seceded.

I think the Kurds are screwed because I doubt there is the knowledge or willingness for anyone to step up for them.

Pity.  

But they are tough independent people who already know they can't rely on anyone to help them.  Maybe in another generation things will be better for them.