UK unemployed - will you be more likely to find job if proposals to make you work for your benefit comes in ?

Question

With Party Conference season just coming up, David Cameron, who is most likely next PM is reportedly planning that jobless people in UK will have to do community work to get your dole money in future, and your benefits will also get cut if you refuse 3 reasonable job offers. Cameron also plans to force people on incapacity benefit to have tougher medicals and if found able to do any sort of work put them on job seekers allowance instead of incapacity benefit so they have to get a job or go hungry..If you are currently unemployed will you be more likely to find a job if Cameron's proposals become law or do you agree with present government who believe these ideas are out of date and will not work?

Answer 1

It would get more people into work - but what about the people who cannot generally work ? they might go hungry if he lowers befits  

Answer 2

It's too late.  It's part of the culture now.  If you try to make them go back to work, they will join the anarchists and take to the streets just like Denmark and France.  Besides, if they have to go back to work, how in the world will they ever find time to shade and spike their hair or kick the stones off each other at football matches?  It's not fair, I say.

Answer 3

Its a fab idea, although i'm a labour supporter I agree that such tough measures need to be taken to be able to take a step ahead of benefit fraudsters. I am currently looking for work and managed to get three interviews in five months of looking.

Although I wouldn't enjoy doing community work as some of the work could feel demeaning, I can see how it would benefit the community and economy. Although I wouldn't learn much from it as I am busting my @r53 off to get a job spending hours every day applying for jobs (even ones I don't want just to get into work) but there are lazy gits out there scrounging off the welfare estate or even those who are working illegally and taking money from the welfare estate whom the government needs to get tough on. Although it is discriminating to some one in my position to be forced to do community work and may infringe my human rights, looking at the bigger picture, If I accepted this then I would be doing this for the better and for the better of the community and country. What the people need to understand about being patriotic is that people need to be happy to give up a few rights even in a democratic society to keep order and stop people from being able to cheat the system.

Answer 4

It is Labour who created this mess - because they have not focused on the economy.  As the Institute of Directors have put it:

“We’re now at a level of tax to GDP that is in danger of inhibiting growth,” Mr Templeman warned. “The tax burden, in terms of level and administrative cost, is at an unacceptably high rate.”

Answer 5

No I do not believe Cameron's proposals will overcome the problem, and it is just a headline grabbing tactic to try to get votes from people who work hard and dislike having to pay high taxes to support the workshy's laziness and malingering, rather than to address the problems of rising unemployment of the British population realistically.

In my case, I was unemployed six months after having to give up my merchant navy career. My ships officers qualifications proved no use in finding a decently paid job ashore in the UK and I did find being unemployed degrading but age discrimination by UK employers was my biggest obstacle to getting back into work, But I eventually got a job in my fifties by going to an employment agency and finding out what jobs were most unpopular and difficult to fill and retain workers in.  My research revealed security guard working rotating shifts was just that, because of low wages, long and very unsociable hours, unpleasant working conditions, need not to never have had any criminal convictions and being treated like **** by employers.

So I zoomed in on that.I did the course and immediately got back into work on low wages but I had a job again and still have.. But there was never any question of my getting any "reasonable job offers" prior to then so under the Cameron plan I would not have had my benefit stopped. If I had had to do community work that would not have made me any less unwilling to try to find proper work.

The current real problem as recognised by Timbo above is that many employers are only taking on migrant workers from eastern europe in preference to UK school leavers who are regarded as lazy and irresponsible by many employers, particularly in agriculture and hospitality. That is the issue that none of the three main Parties seem to wish to address. The Conservatives actually supporting Labour and the Lib-Dems in the open door policy of allowing the entire former Soviet Bloc nations into the EU and right to take jobs in UK without any kind of referendum in Great Britain as to whether our population wanted that, So they are just as guilty as Labour. Cameron's wafflings about curbing unemployment in the UK, like Brown's are just a big red herring.   

Answer 6

People on benefit should be more strictly tested. It turns out that the bottomless pit of taxpayers handouts isn't as bottomless as first thought. The scroungers need to be weeded out from those in genuine need.

Answer 7

well he is right.i was made redundant so if i was in government i would propose that redundant people live on £200 a week.most people i know have never done a days work in their lives and they seem to do well.time for a change in the way we use/think about the welfare system.i;e look after the ones who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own.

Answer 8

I will be more likely to find work simply if there is more work - especially outside sales and callcentres.

Answer 9

Cameron is simply spelling out what is obvious to most people in this country. I, for one, am totally p!ssed off at paying more and more tax to prop up a system that is being totally abused by career benefits scroungers. Thre is nothing left in the taxpayers pockets so the Treasury is now down to borrowing and increasing the national debt.

With a population of 62 million and a workforce of only 32 million the sums don't add up.

Something drastic needs doing, sooner rather than later, before the country goes totally bankrupt.

Answer 10

I left school 6 months ago. Coodnt find a job in Lancashire so moved south to try find work but still cant find a job apparently coz migrant workers get all the jobs down here too. Dont think these ideas make any sense. Jobs I have been offerred wood mean I get little more munny than I get on job seekers so if I have to work to get job seekers so be it, but i wont be more or less likely to get a real job. All its doing is making it seem there are less people unemployed when there arent.

Answer 11

That may work in some areas but a lot of places are real short of jobs that are un-skilled. More training for those that have no skills would be better than letting them starve because they cant find work

Answer 12

This is the Tories for you, c**p on those who are least able to defend themselves. So what about all his pals in the city who make a fortune and pay no tax at all as it is all in offshore accounts?

They are the real spongers, not some poor sod struggling to make ends meet and only wants a job, not to be punished being out of work and depressed badly as a consequence.

Vote these self serving k***s back in and you will regret it. Remember the 80's? No, you must have forgotten.