Unwanted children and child abuse: is it better to bring a child into the word & abuse it ?

Question

Than to abort the embryo?

The statistics say that unwanted children are at much greater risk of abuse than wanted children.

This baby was dumped in subzero temperatures and when the police eventually did locate the parents (who are still together and have more children) - neither one wanted the child:

"Abandoned Baby Named 'Angelica-Leslie' Shows Signs Of Abuse"

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_19195.aspx

Answer 1

I believe that this is irrelevant.  Even if there was a total certainty that ALL unwanted "babies" would grow up having wonderful childhoods and have happy adult lives, that still doesn't matter.  The ONLY thing that matters is that women have a right to exercise control over their own bodies.  Even if a fetus was certain to grow up to live a happy, normal life, the mother still has a right to abort because it's HER body and no fetus has a right to inhabit it and consume her nutrients and put her health/life at risk without her permission.

Answer 2

Really now, are those the only two options?

Answer 3

It would be better to have an abortion if the mother turns out to be an abuser. In situations like that, the living would envy the dead.

Answer 4

That is sad but are you saying that she should be dead? You can't cry over spilled milk. The child is now alive and the only way to change that is for her to die. And I don't think any baby should die because the parents don't want them. You can't fix what you feel should have been done before she was born. But you can make her life easier and how do you plan on doing that? But I doubt you care.

EDIT: Since the baby was not aborted, would you rather her be dead now? Or do you plan to adopt her to give her a better life? Or will you not do anything to better or worse her condition than come here and complain about what has already been done? Oh and one more thing, what proof do you have that abortion will decrease the number of abused kids? Parenting classes would reduce that risk, not abortion.

Answer 5

No, of course it's better to abort it. When you're dead, you don't feel anything. When you're alive and being abused, you suffer. Everyone saying that the child is better off being alive is basically saying that they believe suffering is better than non-feeling. Which is obviously nonsense but some people are pretty illogical.

This is not to say that such a child could not eventually live a happy life. But once again if they had never been born, they wouldn't be around to worry that they weren't leading a happy life.

Answer 6

Abortion has been legal in the UK since 1967, and in America since I don't know when, yet the numbers of abused children do not seem to have decreased.  Is abortion really a cure for child abuse?

And at least this child is still alive, even if it's parents don't want it.  Somebody probably will.

Answer 7

I agree that it is better to not exist than to live a life of suffering. Unfortunately many people who would never consider abortion have no trouble brutalizing, abandoning, even raping their children. It's really sad.

My mom had me when she was 17 and she was a really good mom. One day she yelled at me because she hadn't slept and my brother was sick and crying, then she turned herself in for "child abuse." Child protective services gave her a job looking after kids whose parents were in therapy for abuse. I remember little girls with rope burns on their necks and little boys with bloody mouths and black eyes. It was really sad to see what people do to their children.

Abortion needs to remain legal for many, many reasons and comprehensive s*x education would help as well, but once a child is born all we can do is love it to the best of our abilities and, as a society, make sure that parents have the education and opportunities they need to be good parents.

It's all about minimizing suffering.

My mother once asked me how I would feel if she had aborted me. Honestly, I wouldn't. Simple as that. Sure, I like my life now, but I worked for years to get through the c**p that happened to me (later in my childhood I was sexually abused). I'm in my 30's and still trying to heal and I suspect I always would be. If I had never been born I wouldn't know that I wasn't born so it wouldn't matter. I just wouldn't exist and that would be fine. c**p, I'm going to die anyway and I won't exist then either so what difference does it really make, really?

Religion simply muddies the water and deludes us into believing that we can know why we are here, where we came from and where we are going. It makes us believe all this unknowable c**p and I don't buy any of it. Before I was here I didn't exist and someday I will be dead forever. If I had been aborted it would only expedite the process. So if all my life was only suffering then, no I wouldn't want to live.

Some of these abused kids will make it, but yeah, it would be nice if we set down the hypotheticals about God and all that c**p we can never know and just do what minimizes suffering. Abortion is clearly more humane than a life of suffering. We understand that with animals and for some reason we think humans are different because were "sacred." Well guess what? Everything is sacred and everything that lives dies. Deal with it and do what minimizes suffering.

Answer 8

It is so sad that parents can abuse their children, "wanted" or not. There is just NO excuse. I just don't understand how they can be like that.

Answer 9

Holy cow that is the lamest excuse on the planet, have an abortion because you don't want the child to live in a horrible place. If we all thought like that how the h**l would we progress in life in the first place? If we told martin luther king's mother to abort her child because racism is horrible and he doesn't need to face the horrible actions racism and segregation has caused to black people then where would the civil rights movement be? WOULD THERE BE ONE? And would it be as effective?  

The world sucks because people make it suck, but it also PROSPERS and excels because again people MAKE IT that way.  You can't blame the kid cause the world's a piece of sh*t you should give the child a chance to grow and make a d**n difference.  Oprah was abused in her childhood, ran away from home according to her biography, and now look at her, richest black woman in America, actually GIVES back to people rewards and helps people....yea but we should abort our children because they're going to be abused and live in a horrible world.

Like any human we ADOPT to and overcome the problems we face in this world, like one earlier said it's not aborting the children that will solve the problem it's gettin rid of the foul pieces of sh*t for parents that actually do the abusing!

Answer 10

I would want my parents to give me the choice to be adopted, be placed in a foster home, at least to somehow live.  I could always kill myself.  

Anyone can kill themselves if they would rather be dead, but even most adults who were abused as children don't chose to commit suicide.  They would rather live.

There are options other than abuse or death.  Countless people are willing to wait years and spend $20,000 + to adopt a baby.