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Vegans: Whats so wrong with dairy?

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I get whats wrong with meat, but I cannot come up with anything wrong with dairy... or eggs.

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  1. Eggs are about the main source of cholesterol.Dairy-of mucus.It all very badly affects the interior of ahuman body,cholesterol blocks arteries,mucus-lungs and intestines.It is foundable in different sites,check it.Cholesterol one's body produces as much as needed(if the body is healthy enough of course),mucus the same,B12 the same,protein is obtained from nuts,beans,etc.If You arrange for skillful management of Your body,then all You need are these vegan sources of protein,if not-go to hospital


  2. /shrug.

    Some cows are only used for their milk, & sometimes milked 'till they can't produce milk anymore.

    So that's cruel too.

    But other people have other reasons.

  3. I am not vegan, but I might be. In some places, usually big farms, cows are treated badly.  Examples, prodded and sometimes hit by mean milkers, which I have experienced.  Even some "free-range" dairy products aren't really free-ranged, but more than others.

    I do not need to be vegan, because I get my milk from a family farm(it's the best milk I've ever had!) and the eggs I get are from a friend's farm.  I know the animals are treated well.  They family give them names like "Cluckers" so it shows that the family has love for the chickens.

    I don't care if someone's vegan or not, but I would encourage you to make sure the milk and eggs you eat are from healthy and happy chickens and cows. =)

  4. Dairy cows are impregnated over and over again, eventually exhausting their bodies. They are seperated from their calves so the milk can go to us.

    Once they are deemed no longer useful, they are slaughtered like the rest of the cattle made into meat.

    As for eggs, the conditions hens live in are terrible. Research it.

  5. Millions of male chicks are culled each year because they don't lay eggs.

    The conditions layer hens are kept in can be cruel.

    http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming_chic...

    Likewise, the conditions for dairy cows are often unpleasant.

    http://www.mercyforanimals.org/dairy_and...

    Male calves are used for veal. That's part of the dairy industry.

    It comes down to exploitation. We can live healthy, happy lives without deliberately exploiting animals, so vegans choose not to.


  6. In some factories, milk cows and chickens are kept in really bad conditions, like being force fed and crammed into cages, etc.

    I usually try to avoid dairy and eggs, but like the person above, I get eggs and dairy from my friend's family's farm where the animals are treated well.

    Try finding free-range eggs at the store and organic milk.

  7. Dairy: The dairy industry is an extremely cruel practise and is extremely harmful to human health, especially growing kids. Mammals don't lactate unless pregnant, or recently pregnant, you must forcefully impregnate cows (rape), and the female calves are either slaughtered or added to the diary herd. The male calves are killed for veal. And the cow will stop making milk after the calf is born, so they inject the cows with steroids that keep the fetus from developing. The fetus will stay in there for as long as the farmers want, just so the cow will make milk. It's painful for the cow to be pregnant all the time. Cows live for about 25 years and produce milk for about nine years. The stress of the factory farm leads to disease, lameness and reproductive problems and most cows die or are sent to the slaughterhouse in four year. The cows are hooked by their udders to electronic machines and cows are subject to constant electric shocks, this leads to mastitis. They spend their entire lives standing on concrete floors and living conditions are abysmal.

    Also check out:

    http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming_Cows...

    http://veganpeace.blogspot.com/2007/09/h...

    Eggs: While eggs are one of the few animal product that are not so damaging to human heath as dairy and meat is, it still has some bad heath effects including salmonella and risk for breast and ovarian cancer. In the factory farms the chickens are treated horribly. The mothers (laying hens) are treated horrible, abused, even free range chickens are. As well they are always debeaked (which is extremely painful, the pain is comparable to having a human fingernail removed by the quick of the nail, neurophysiological and behavioural evidence that beak trimming leads to both acute and chronic pain) Plus the eggs are either a female chickens menstruation or (very rarely) her baby.

    Also check out:

    http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming_chic...

  8. Most dairy cows and hens are shipped to the slaughterhouse after they are too old to produce eggs or milk, therefore contributing to the meat industry. A lot of cows are injected with growth hormone so they will produce more milk, which can infect them with mastitis. Mastitis makes it extremely painful to be milked for the cows, so it's a different form of abuse.

    Some people don't know that cows have to be pregnant to produce milk and then be milked - but they do. So, they are artificially inseminated by their farmers to give birth to more dairy calves or male calves. Most male calves are deemed useless at birth, so they are shipped off to be produced as veal, thus supporting the veal industry.

    The making of veal is very cruel, as veal calves are held in tiny crates so as to keep their muscles soft by preventing them from moving. They are slaughtered at just 4 months of age - they are just babies when they are killed.

    There is a lot more I could go on and on about, but those are the biggest reasons I don't eat dairy or eggs, because they support the meat, poultry and veal industries.

  9. I'm not Vegan but I'm guessing...

    The way milk is taken from cows is inhumane and cruel in some places.

    Eggs would soon develop into chicks which would develop into chickens.

    So in a way, eating an egg is like a chicken abortion.

    Although, don't we only eat the eggs that CAN'T turn into chickens..?

  10. How well the cows and hens are treated is besides the point, as far as I am concerned.  Although I would bet that even those "happy" cows and hens on the family farms are slaughtered as soon as they stop producing.  Do you expect me to believe that they are fed and taken care of until they die from old age, years later?

    Anyway, dairy and eggs are high in cholesterol, I've never really liked the taste of milk or eggs, and if I think about where they come from too much I get pretty grossed out.  I say leave the milk to the calves and the eggs to the chicks.

  11. it's all the same horrible industry. so ask yourself, "what's wrong with meat?" if your answer is animals have to die for it the same goes for milk and eggs, only its drawn out more and causes more pain.

    This is the life of a milking cow: born, taken away from mother lives in crates, impregnated, has baby, baby taken away from her (mental suffering!), produces milk for machines that really hurt, does that cycle her whole life and then when she's too old and works less, she ends up at the slaughterhouse as... meat. btw, male cows are taken away and killed for veal or grow up in plants then killed for adult meat. milk is unnatural for humans to drink any way you look at it, it's ment 4 babies not greedy humans. it also seems gross.

    the life of a chicken: if female spends all of life in small cage with thousands of others nearby being pumped full of hormones, lays eggs for  to chicks she never see's (think of from a mothers point of view, it gives me chills), lives in the cage until she dies or is killed.

    any males born are literally thrown into the garbage, females have the same fate. So the egg industry kills a lot of chickens and ruins the lives of all others.

    mainly its for ethical reasons, surely you think this is wrong if you think meat is wrong? Keep in mind these animals live through a life of torture as well. The animals are also pumped up with hormones their whole lives, so the eggs and milk contain them too. Some pple think that milk/eggs is not the natural diet of humans or it's not good 4 you. This is all such horrible, horrible information to know, but you need 2 know where u stand on things, i think at least. hope it helped.

  12. If you cannot come up with what's wrong with dairy and eggs, you haven't bothered to look very closely.

    You do know that dairy cattle are mammals, right?  And that mammals have to give birth in order to produce milk, right?  And that mother's milk was designed for the infants of that species, right?  Well if a cow gives birth and nurses her infant, there's little milk left over for human consumption.  This might be OK for a family that keeps a cow or two for their own use, but it doesn't begin to meet the market demand for milk.  So, instead, cows are repeatedly artificially inseminated to keep them more or less constantly pregnant and their infants are taken from them within hours of birth.  All those excess calves have to end up somewhere and, for most of them (all the useless males, anyway) that somewhere is a veal crate.  Meanwhile, their mothers are pumped full of hormones and steroids to force them to produce many times more milk than nature ever intended, are milked by machine which leaves them vulnerable to a painful infection called mastitis which means they are then pumped full of antibiotics.  Most commercial dairy cattle spend their entire lives in a shed, never seeing the outdoors, never grazing in the sun.  A cow should live 15-25 years, but dairy cattle are so worn out from the endless cycle of pregnancy, birth and lactation that they are used up after 4 or 5 years and are slaughtered for cheap beef.  So much intensive milk production has leached calcium and other minerals from their bones and many are lame by the time they get to slaughter.  Drinking milk supports animal cruelty and supports the veal industry.

    Laying hens have it very bad as well.  Most are battery-caged, meaning they are crammed into small cages with half a dozen other birds, the cages stacked ceiling high in massive warehouses, leaving none of them room to open their wings.  Cramped conditions lead to stress and fighting, so their beaks are cut off with a hot knife and no anesthetic.  They are also pumped full of drugs and fed unnatural feed.  Some eggs have to be allowed to be fertilized to keep a steady supply of new layers, but all of the male chicks born are killed as soon as they are sexed (tens of millions of them a year, tossed into a grinder alive, or left to suffocate in a dumpster.)  When a hen's production slows, she is starved for an extended period of time to prompt a new cycle of laying; when she can not longer produce, she becomes nuggets or dog food.  "Free range" is a meaningless term that indicates hens had some access to the outdoors.  These hens are cageless, but are still crammed into a shed with up to 100,000 other birds.  There may be an opening to the outdoors, but the majority of the birds will never get near it.  Eating eggs, unless they come from a treasured companion animal, supports animal cruelty and the mass slaughter of newborn males.

  13. There are lots of things wrong with dairy and eggs. You just haven't seen what they are yet.

    If you really want to know, check out the following.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

    http://factoryfarming.org

    http://www.veganoutreach.org/whyvegan

  14. Dairy cows suffer because they are forced to be pregnant in order to produce milk. Plus these cows are injected with hormones that inflame their utters. Not to mention that the additives in milk are not necessarily good for the human body. As for eggs, if you look in nature, animals that eat eggs are classified as omnivores or carnivores but not herbivores. The United States Department of Agriculture and the Catholic church also categorizes eggs as meat.

  15. I am not Vegan, but I believe it generally comes from the conditions in which the animals are kept in order to have them produce massive amounts of milk and eggs.

    Chickens are kept in lighted (extremely hot and crowded) chicken houses so that they never sleep.  They are made to lay eggs until they die of exhaustion.  

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