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Vegans and vegetarians: How do you justify killing plants?

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Other then the invalid nervous system argument.....

If one were to shoot an animal in the head, that wouldn't be a factor.....so do you agree with hunting then???

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  1. Your rant is invalid.  Why does it matter to do why we don't want to eat dead animals?  What are you gaining by being argumentative?  I don't care what you eat so keep your business out of what I eat.


  2. animals are raised so you can eat them, and guess what they feed them plants

  3. I don't know!!!  Maybe it's because they can't feel pain!  They don't have central nervous systems or brains...Meat eaters kill more vegetation than vegetarians and vegans.  Animals eat vegetation and then the meat eaters eat the animals.

    If you think your question is original, guess again.  People ask that on here all the time and each time it makes me laugh.  I hope you aren't seriously asking this question.  It makes you look a little...I don't know...ignorant?  The average person understands the difference between plants and animals.  Even my 4-year-old son doesn't pet our houseplants...He does pet our birds though:)

  4. plants cannot feel pain, . animals can. if plants are killed they do not have emotions or nerves to feel pain, because they have no brain. animals do! and plus you cant survive without eating plants or animals.

    and by eating meat you kill far more plants to feed the animals than just by eating plants, yourself.

  5. Do you understand the difference between throwing a rock and throwing a baby?

    It doesn't sound like you would.

  6. Wow, you're absolutely right.  Killing a sentient animal that would otherwise prefer to live is as morally deplorable as picking an apple off a tree.  

    All this time, I've been living a lie.  Shame on me.

    But thank goodness that painless killing is justifiable... please put that in writing and sign it so that the world will know that the person who shoots you in the head is, by your logic, completely absolved of any wrong-doing.

  7. How do YOU justify killing animals that actually feel pain and fear? A plant does not have a brain, heart, central nervous system... that means they cant feel PAIN nor FEAR

    Edit: Come on are you serious? If I chop a carrot thats not the same as chopping a cows body part off. Plants do not have feelings - and Im sorry you couldnt figure that out in the first place

    Chop a chickens head off ? no no no... this is what they do BEFORE anything!

    - Stuff 10 chickens into one tiny cage

    - Chop their beaks off

    - Starve them

    - Hang them upside down

    - Put them in boiling hot water ALIVE - some live, some dont

    - Kill them

    Sometimes they do way worse than that...

    Yes, that is a lot of pain...

  8. It's not wrong to eat plants for the same reason that it is not wrong to kill bacteria. Every time I brush my teeth, I kill thousands of bacteria, yet I see nothing wrong with doing so.

    The distinguishing characteristic between animals and plants is that animals are conscious beings capable of feeling pain and suffering.  Animals are capable of feeling happiness, joy, sorrow, and a desire to live.

    Plants (and bacteria) don't have brains, pain receptors, or central nervous systems. They also don't exhibit any behavior which would indicate that they possess consciousness.

    Seriously.... do you see no difference between mowing the lawn and skinning a cat while he/she is fully conscious?

    (Even if a person's main goal in life is to minimize the number of plants which are killed, a vegetarian diet still makes the most sense. Meat production is very inefficient. Only a small fraction of the food which is eaten by animals is converted into meat for human consumption. We can reduce animal suffering and kill fewer plants by adopting a vegetarian diet.)

    EDIT:

    It sounds like you're saying it doesn't matter whether an organism has a central nervous system and can feel pain. So do you see no difference between killing bacteria and killing dogs then?

  9. Plants are invalids. They can't walk.

  10. Survival

  11. Seriously... plants have feelings too!

    :( <tear>

  12. Well, my reasons for being vegetarian have nothing to do with an aversion to killing things, so I don't need to. Nobody does, for that matter. It's a personal decision.

    That being said, I have a problem with treating sentient beings as products.

    I have no problem with hunting so long as it's done conscientiously. Same goes for farming. If it's done with respect to the animals, the environment, and people, no problem. Raise some chickens or cows naturally, kill them in a painless way, etc. No biggie. The problem, of course, is that the vast majority of meat is NOT produced that way.

    I don't feel like supporting the industry, especially when I don't particularly enjoy the product (I no longer like meat).

  13. most of the animals we eat are mammals, just like humans.

    they have a brain, a nervous system, and feel pain.

    plants do not. they cannot think because they dont have brain, and cant feel pain because they dont have a nervous system. its like calling a dog a piece of celery...does it make sense, i dont think so....but thats exactly your question..

    most people are vegetarians because of the way the animals are treated, also because of health concerns that come with eating meat, and because humans ARE NOT supposed to be omnivores we are supposed to be plant eaters. the way the human body is built and the things we use to eat and/or digest are almost identical to a plant eaters, not an omnivores, or a canivores.

    so plants cannot feel where they are, if there scared, or if there being eaten or "killed".

    animals can see, hear, and feel the pain of being in a tiny cage all alone waiting to go to the slaughterhouse.

    as for hunting, i have no problem with it if you are using EVERY single part of the animal like the natives used to, and not just hunting for game, or just to eat, meat is still very bad for you anyway so why would you eat it?

    i have no clue but  thats for you to decide....

  14. The difference is pain, suffering and sentience, troll.

  15. Sigh!

    All animals fear death. That goes for me as well. So, I eat plants.  Nuff said!

    I so enjoy people who that think they are beating me at my own game with silly questions. Oh wait! I get it! You'll ask a silly plant question...I'll think about it for awhile....It'll go something like this......

    "Hmmm....animals are alive...eating them is bad because they are alive...WAIT! Plants are alive....shouldn't eating them be bad too....Oh No! My brain is overloading with the complexity of this argument.....Error! Error!"

    ....my logic circuits will overload...and my head will explode. One less vegetarian to worry about.

    Bravo!

  16. if i get shot in the head i'm pretty sure i still suffer.... it's not like landing in a pile of cotton... your also being deprived of the rest of your life... a plant feels NO pain, feels no happiness, no suffering... nothing.  they're plants.  animals are animals, as we are and feel the things we feel.  do you have a pet?  is it the same as a tomato?

  17. Calling all vegans and vegetarians:

    Don't waste your time trying to convince these people. Everybody knows plants do not feel pain or suffering. They don't have a brain or nervous system. They just grow.

    These people obviously do not want to accept the truth. Even if the logic is overwhelmingly obvious.

  18. We kill far fewer plants for our food than meat-eaters would because we eat plant foods directly, whereas tons and tons of plants are fed to an animal to produce a comparatively small piece of meat.

    So even if plants did feel pain (which they obviously don't) we would be killing far fewer than you.

    16 pounds of grain can produce one pound of beef

    9 pounds of grain can produce one pound of pork

    3 pounds of grain can produce one pound of chicken

    1 pound of grain can sustain a person for a few days

  19. plants we can grow but animals we cant there soon gonna be endangered and sooner exticnt and we dont kill plants we just eat what they produce like fruits

  20. Are you trying to make us feel guilty or something?

    Easy. Sure, plants are alive. They're a living thing. But they aren't conscious. They don't have brains or nervous systems, therefore they are not aware of their existence like animals. Animals feel pain because they have a nervous system and a brain. Plants do not.

    EDIT: Do tell, how is the nervous system argument "invalid"?

    You can't feel pain if you don't have a nervous system. And you DEFINITELY can't feel pain if you don't have a brain. Please, respond.

    And animals do feel pain before they die. It's called FEAR. Plants don't fear.

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