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Vintage Mill FTK/OTK help?

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Creatures

Painter's Servant x4

Spells

Right of Flame x4

Dark Ritual x4

Demonic tutor

Fabricate x4

Tinker

Vampiric Tutor

Ancestral Recall

Mind Spring x3

Force of Will x4

Artifacts

Lotus Petal x4

Grindstone x4

Black Lotus

Mox Jet

Mox Emerald

Mox Sapphire

Mox Ruby

Mox Pearl

Mox Diamond

Lands

Bloodstained Mire x4

Polluted Delta x4

Underground Sea x4

Volcanic Island x3

Badlands x3

Long story short painter's servant makes everything that is out of play the same color and grindstone makes your opponent repeat the milling process if two cards revealed share a color (AKA every card in their deck) so they essentially lose, the deck is essentially mana excel and card draw to pull off the combo turn one and since the two combo peices are colorless it can have dark ritual, any mox, right of flame, etc. all cast them, any help is appareciated

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  1. Personally, I feel Enlightened Tutor is the best for digging out the combo pieces, despite the card disadvantage. Also: if you want to go the more control route, try Red Elemental Blast and Pyroblast, as they both are hard counters and vindicates for any spell if you have Painter set to blue, and even without it set, its a hard counter for FoW and many other key vintage spells.

    I also feel that Tormod's Crypt is better than Leyline of the Void, as Leyling is clunky and if its not in your hand to start with, you can forget about it. Tormod's Crypt has the same cost to play (zero) and since you only need to have all their cards removed from the games once to win (when Gaea's Blessing's trigger is on the stack), there is no downside. You can also tutor for it with Enlightened Tutor and other tutors.

    I would also suggest an alternative win condition, since removing all Grindstones or Painter's Servant from the game would leave you without anything.

    And sorry for being blunt about this: but you really should not run Mind Spring. I may be naive but i think it requires too much mana to be useful in my opinion. Brainstorm might be a better option. If you must run a Mind Spring effect, I would suggest a copy of Braingeyser (its restricted).

    I disagree with Rite of Flame and similiar effects, but thats more deck style and personal preference. To me this deck should be more control than accelerating into the combo, but again, whatever deck style floats your boat :P.


  2. get 4 leyline of the voids

    that way, when they sideboard in gaea's blessing, you can drop the leyline out and it won't matter.

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