WHY should 2 employees at the same company doing the same job get paid the same?

Question

just another man: because that's what the new employee and the employer agreed

i've started new jobs and there's no way I'd ever accept the bottom of the pay scale, regardless of how long someone else had been working there

I think J. has maybe answered my question properly though.

Answer 1

Very good point. And I don't know anyone who gets the exact same pay for exact same job, because usually the workload is divided as to who is most reliable.

EDIT - there are many with different skills, and from what I've seen there are people who just are more productive and handle their time well when it comes to their work. They should be rewarded for their contributions and ability to focus on their jobs, which in my experience seems to be everyone else's business. I used to work in a call center where people complained about someone getting more than someone else. They'd complain and complain, instead of just handling their workload.

Answer 2

I agree with you.

In fact primary lessons in management tell us that 20% of people do 80% of job and vice versa.

Answer 3

Employers should pay the same wage to people who are doing work of the same value.

Answer 4

I have mixed feelings on this as I have been on both sides.

On one hand, most companies just want to rip-off employees. This is because all companies are to make profit and a good way is to cut expenses. Thus ripping off employees that are not good negotiators is good for business. Specially since you can get away with it, since the salaries and not disclosed.

On the other hand how do you encourage excellence if you pay everyone the same? And if some are openly payed more for the same work, how good is for the company moral.

Tricky situation.

Answer 5

If two employees do the same job, work the same amount of hours, have the same amount of responsibility, and do the job just as well as each other, then they should be paid the same.

Answer 6

you should get more than the other person cause you worked so hard to get were you are at today so you need more speak up and let your boss know what is on your mind please.

Answer 7

Poo Poo suggests that >  If two employees do the same job, work the same amount of hours, have the same amount of responsibility, and do the job just as well as each other, then they should be paid the same.  <

I suggest that ONE of them is fired.  There clearly is NO NEED of two people doing the SAME job!  And, if one of them offers to do the work as a volunteer (for free), the fire the other one too.

Let us REALLY appreciate ''Loyalty''.

Question, just how would you measure two people doing the same job with the same skills?

I suppose that you could always not only pay the lesser skilled person a lesser amount, but give him / her a sheet of instructions on how to shop and cook and feed the family on the cheap ....and get away with paying less rent / mortgage too.

Keep it up. We are onto a ''Winner'' here.

Sash.

Answer 8

Because of Kobe's fame, he gets more endorsements from outside sources. I doubt that the managers would pay him more than the other team members. Otherwise, if two workers are equally productive, with all other things being the same, they should get paid the same amount.

Answer 9

Why not? same company, same job, same hours, so they should paid the same.

Answer 10

It's all about results. It's called pay for performance.

Answer 11

No reason, as long as the difference isn't so large you're in another pay band, in which case either one of you is being over paid, or one is being severely underpaid. There's lots of small variations within and across companies.

The question that prompted equal pay laws was actually why is one gender always underpaid, regardless of loyalty, skill and ability?

Answer 12

Only if they do the job just as good as the other. You shouldn't deserve the same amount of money if you only made 1 ice cream cone vs. 10.

Answer 13

Poo Poo: Thats not what he said. You added all the factors that he's trying to say add to getting better pay.

Anywho, i agree with you wholeheartedly, i'm a man, working as a new firefighter, and im getting paid more than a couple guys who have been working there for 3 years, all because i'm always putting in extra hours and go the extra mile around the station, like i manage the paperwork and other things.

I also think i have a promotion coming my way, which will mean more money for me.

I already have 6000$ in my savings account, and i opened that account the day i got the job, and i've only been working 6 months.

All because i work my *** off.

Think about that.

Rio Madeira: Actually no, player salaries are determined by contract between team owner and player, so better players can ask for better salaries.

This is also on top of outside endorsements.

Answer 14

There are some feeble legislative efforts to require full disclosure of employee pay.  But, I haven't seen much results there, yet.  What I recommend to people, as an employer and as a feminist, is to initially negotiate pay more aggressively, which less women do than males.  For example, a nursing agency will have insurance reimbursements designated for nursing salaries to pay registered nurses between, say, $17 dollars an hour to $48 dollars an hour.  Degreed nurses get only a dollar or two an hour more than RN's and certain shifts get paid better.  But, even with those variances, that designated $17-$48 pay spread doesn't account for just those variances.  It's vital to negotiate aggressively, hard-nosed, at hire-on and for people to learn tactics for avoiding leaving money on the table during hire-on, such as NOT filling-in on an application an amount of money one expect's to make or to reveal what one earned before.  It is WRONG to reveal to a new employer your earning history.  Leave all of that blank on a job application.

Also, if an exploitive situation arises after employment of obvious inequalities, employees typically re-negotiate their pay, they can file complaints in-house and governmental and they can quit.  I always quit.  I would never waste anymore time than I have to working to make someone else rich who would s***w me like that.  For example, my father had a busy tool and machine rental business when I was a teenager.  He rented trenchers and hired teenage boys like my brothers to go along as operators at an incredible $10 an hour when minimum wage was like $1.75 an hour.  

My job at the rental was to recommision every single returned tool and machine for re-rental.  I wasn't getting paid.  Then, one day we were short a boy to go with a trencher and I took the job.  I was the person to teach new boys how to use the trencher so I was competent, did that job and three or four others that weekend.  I was rolling in the dough, or so I thought.  When pay day came along my own father paid me minimum wage.  I knew what was happening.  My father was unforgiveably dishonorable in that moment.  I tore the paycheck up in front of him and WALKED. I never set foot in his store again or lifted a finger in any way to benefit my father's business after that.  If an employer screws you once, he or she will never pass up an opportunity to s***w you again.  Don't work for that type.

Answer 15

They shouldn't if they didn't start at the same time, hence seniority. if i worked at a job for 2 years and some one enters the same position at that point they should come in at entry level and earn there way to were i would be at through normal step increases. If they enter at the same time why shouldn't they get the same level of pay for the same job title?

ah ok well your situation sounds different from mine, i work under contract that is protected by union and so to is every one who comes to the job like wise under that same contract. experience and education is all part of the contracted positions and there are several. the job requires licensing through the state which requires continual educational units each year to maintain. If some one has a higher level of licensing they could find them selves over qualified for the job title.