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Was 9/11 an inside job? There are two sides to the story.?

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Can anyone provide detailed information about the popular mechanics issue debunking 911 as well as the history channels documentary to compare and contrast it to the 911 truth movement?

Lets make this a debate and examine both points of view.

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  1. I'm going to use the words to an old Kenny Rodgers tune...........

    You got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything.

    If you actually believe that 9-11 was an "inside" job, then somewhere at sometime something was lost on you. This country may not be perfect. Humanity as a whole is a long way from perfection therefore anything and everything created by and /or ran by humanity is also lacking in this area. But the USA is the best thing this piece of rock floating in space has going for it! There is no way, despite how much you may hate the man, that GW Bush planned 9-11. How can a man that did such a poor job with hurricane relief plan such an attack and hide the truth of his complicity? Especially with how the media hates him so much.


  2. The Globalist goal is to erase the Constitution and form

    the NAU..among other things.   Patriot acts I & II as well

    as the protect America act erased a measurable

    amount of the constitution.

    And if you listen to some of the speeches by H Kissenger,

    he in fact has spoken on using terror,starvation,drought,

    and so on to get citizens to relinquish their civil liberties.

    These would be motives of course.

  3. There is already so much information about this available through a simple Google search that it would be a little silly to rehash it all out here.

  4. There were 2,974 fatalities, excluding the 19 hijackers: 246 on the four planes (from which there were no survivors), 2,603 in New York City in the towers and on the ground, and 125 at the Pentagon.[23][24] An additional 24 people remain listed as missing.[25] All of the fatalities in the attacks were civilians except for 55 military personnel killed at the Pentagon.[26] More than 90 countries lost citizens in the attacks on the World Trade Center.[27]

    NIST estimated that approximately 17,400 civilians were in the World Trade Center complex at the time of the attacks, while turnstile counts from the Port Authority suggest that 14,154 people were typically in the Twin Towers by 8:45 a.m.[28][29] The vast majority of people below the impact zone safely evacuated the buildings, along with 18 individuals who were in the impact zone in the south tower.[30] 1,366 people died who were at or above the floors of impact in the North Tower.[31] According to the Commission Report, hundreds were killed instantly by the impact, while the rest were trapped and died after the tower collapsed.[32] As many as 600 people were killed instantly or were trapped at or above the floors of impact in the South Tower.[31]

    Fatalities (excluding hijackers)

    New York City World Trade Center 2,603 died and another 24 remain listed as missing[25][33]

    American 11 88[34]

    United 175 59[35]

    Arlington Pentagon 125[36]

    American 77 59[37]

    Shanksville United 93 40[38]

    Total 2,974 died and another 24 remain listed as missing.

    At least 200 people jumped to their deaths from the burning towers (as depicted in the photograph "The Falling Man"), landing on the streets and rooftops of adjacent buildings hundreds of feet below.[39] Some of the occupants of each tower above its point of impact made their way upward toward the roof in hope of helicopter rescue, but the roof access doors were locked. No plan existed for helicopter rescues, and on September 11, the thick smoke and intense heat would have prevented helicopters from conducting rescues.[40]

    A total of 411 emergency workers who responded to the scene lost their lives as they attempted to implement rescue and fire suppression efforts. The New York City Fire Department lost 341 firefighters and 2 FDNY Paramedics.[41] The New York City Police Department lost 23 officers.[42] The Port Authority Police Department lost 37 officers.[43] Private EMS units lost 8 additional EMTs and paramedics.[44][45]

    Cantor Fitzgerald L.P., an investment bank on the 101st–105th floors of One World Trade Center, lost 658 employees, considerably more than any other employer.[46] Marsh Inc., located immediately below Cantor Fitzgerald on floors 93–101 (the location of Flight 11's impact), lost 295 employees, and 175 employees of Aon Corporation were killed.[47] After New York, New Jersey was the hardest hit state, with the town of Hoboken sustaining the most fatalities.[48]

    The city was able to identify remains for only approximately 1,600 of the victims at the World Trade Center. The medical examiner's office also collected "about 10,000 unidentified bone and tissue fragments that cannot be matched to the list of the dead."[49] Bone fragments were still being found in 2006 as workers prepared the damaged Deutsche Bank Building for demolition.

    now why would we do this to our selfs..and kill so many people and  this is only somethings that happened

    i feel people who think this is a joke have nothing better on there hands

  5. I am split. I want to believe that it was a hate driven terrorist attack that the US was in no way involved in, but I can't help but believe it was aided by the United States government. That of course is horrible to say because what government would allow thousands of people die in such a horrible and inhumane way?

  6. yes it was a inside job

  7. Well there were sickos who planned it and plenty of innocent lives lost

  8. there are many websites that prove that it was in fact real and not a hoax. google it

  9. Of course it was an inside job.  Elvis told me so just before he and Sasquatch got back into their UFO and flew away.

  10. Q33 NY

    1) New York City has 11 letters

    2) Afghanistan has 11 letters.

    3) Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened to destroy the Twin Towers in 1993) has 11 letters.

    4) George W Bush has 11 letters.

    This could be a mere coincidence, but this gets more interesting:

    1) New York is the 11th state.

    2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight number 11.

    3) Flight 11 was carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11

    4) Flight 77 which also hit Twin Towers, was carrying 65 passengers. 6+5 = 11

    5) The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11 as it is now known. 9 + 1+ 1 = 11

    6) The date is equal to the US emergency services telephone number 911. 9 + 1 + 1 = 11.

    Sheer coincidence..?! Read on and make up your own mind:

    1) The total number of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was

    254. 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

    2) September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year. Again 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

    3) The Madrid bombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 11.

    4) The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers incident.

    Now this is where things get totally eerie:

    The most recognised symbol for the US, after the Stars & Stripes, is the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the Islamic holy book:

    "For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was peace."

    That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran.

    Still uncovinced about all of this..?! Try this and see how you feel

    afterwards

    Open Microsoft Word and do the following:

    1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first

    plane to hit one of the Twin Towers.

    2. Highlight the Q33 NY.

    3. Change the font size to 48.

    4. Change the actual font to the WINGDINGS

    What do you think now?!!

    Q33 NY

  11. 1654110.0.20.2 10.10 321 321 231 3123123 13 1

  12. I don't know the specifics, but I was told by several people that when Bush got the call about the attack he didn't seem alarmed at all. I was told that he was reading and after he was given the news he went back to his book. What the h**l? If this is true, what other involvement did he have? I just think he would have reacted differently had he not been involved. Bush should be prosecuted for his involvement in terroist activities both in the US and around the world. He and his people in office are crooked and perhaps we should give them some sort of "truth serum" to find out the real story. Our country has always been run by criminals with big pocket books and wealthy "friends."

  13. I belive that it was a terriost threat, adn that no one really new it was going to happen. I do not belive our country would but is in any danger like that.

  14. Of course it was.  Anyone who looks at the all information with a reasonably open mind would conclude that.

    The problem is looking at that information takes hundreds of hours.  People cannot be bothered so they stay asleep.

    Understanding it takes a mind that can grasp big pictures.  People who think in straight lines will never get it.

    The issue is way to large to debate here.  To debate here, we would have to break it down into small bites and take one bite at a time.

  15. What can you rephrase that

  16. Evidently.

  17. You're right, there are two sides to the story.

    1. The truth: we were attacked by evil terrorists and many innocent people died.

    2. Every other falsehood: People who invent these stories do nothing but tarnish the memory of those who died that day.

  18. have you seen short change ? if you can still download it then do so as it brings up some very interesting points

  19. It is a possibility. As to what would it accomplish if it were an inside job? Well, look at all the rights we have lost in the name of the "War on Terrorism" They can now arrest you, hold you indefinitely, and refuse you an attorney simply by saying they think you may be a terrorist.  I suggest you watch Rendition, it is based on real events and then decide for yourself if it is possible it was an inside job.

  20. i thnk its bush , planning an attack so it seems tha terrorist can hate us. then he can go to iraq to 'find' tha terroirst and kill them. and just happne to take a 'little' oil with us.

  21. there are more then two points of view....

    I don't like Bush, i don't like Osama.

    both are pretty bad people.

    whoever did it, they are horrible human beings and don't deserve to live

  22. Hummm!..Maybe it was orchestrated by the same crew that perpetrated the Kennedy assasination...get a grip!!!!

  23. if you watch the movie zeitgeist, it presents a very compelling argument that the 9/11 attacks were indeed a controlled demolition, and not a terrorist attack as the US government would have the global community believe.  I highly recommend it.  As to what the government has to gain by doing such a thing: it's called consumerism.  Keep people afraid and 1) they'll consume, 2) they will do whatever their government tells them, and will support their government's activities that would otherwise be viewed as questionable at best (cough cough Iraq).  I mean no one even noticed the subtle transition between let's invade Afghanistan and take out Bin Laden because he's behind the 9/11 attacks, and o now we're in Iraq "looking for WMD's", even though Hussein was never involved as a suspect in the 9/11 attacks, and the only plausible reason for the US to be in Iraq was OIL.  

    To quote Tim McIlrath, "If you're not angry...then you're not paying attention".

    Get educated.

  24. Here is the popular Mechanics article:

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technolo...

    Here is a link to Loose Change:

    http://loosechange911.com/lc2.shtml

    Get the rebuttal here:

    http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseCha...

    Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth:

    http://www.ae911truth.org/

    Labor statistics for engineers working in the US:

    http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos027.htm

    Do the math and find out if the number of engineers and architects represents a statistically significant number.

    Logical talk about the physics involved

    http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/911N...

    And, some lighthearted information, that also hits home:

    http://www.cracked.com/article_15740_was...

    http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/...

    As you look through the information presented by the truther sites and the conspiracy theory debunking sites, ask yourself some critical questions:

    Are they presenting the whole story?

    Is any of the being taken out of context?

    Is this evidence?  Coincidence? Or and unanswered question?

    What if I showed this to my high school science teacher?  Would they support the conclusions made?

  25. If it was an inside job, what did it accomplish?

  26. The  government inside job ?if you look back and very long ago yesterday may be two weeks ago or years ago  you can't keep a secret in this country special the government .always somebody squealing on somebody else 'cause they did not get their fair share .jobs or money  or

    better job .look  turned in .Nixon he was mad at Nixon as they did not get the job he was promised .Nixon took the blame for the people that work for him .

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