Was the horserace fixed today?

Question

Was the horserace fixed today?

Answer 1

I doubt it was fixed, but this would have been just about the most profitable race to fix if you knew you could get away with it.  The other horses were such overwhelming longshots that if you simply placed substantial bets on all of them (perhaps with the exception of Denis of Cork) you would have profited handsomely, no matter which horse finished first.  Lastly, Dutrow IS one of the most shady individuals in all of horse racing, so to suggest he wouldnt blow a chance at "history" for "money", I think is naive.

Answer 2

Ok lets use logic, Big Brown is going to run the race of his life, and he wasnt ready?? Why would you break to the middle of the track on i believe the first turn, he could have took the rail, longest race of the triple crown and the jockey takes the longest way around the track. To believe that this trainer didnt have this horse ready to run this distance, come on people. I honestly believe something isnt right,  when Big Brown beat Du Ta whatever by 23 1/2 lengh in another race and for some strange reason that even the jockey says after the race, "I have no idea". I am done with this triple crown stuff, its baloney for true horse racing fans. I had to laugh, one of the folks talking after the race saying its to much for those horses,that it to tough to run all three races, what a joke!! Dont get sucked in next year thats my advice, its not real, we want to believe its all real, but trust me people, this race could have been fixed without a doubt!

Answer 3

No i dont think it was fixed i think the right horse won and thats thats.... you guys act like it was his victory already. in horse racing..nothing is a sure thing! your question is typical of a person who is a sore loser just get over it... you wanted him to win and you assumed he already had won it so now your only reasoning is "was the race fixed"? ....c'mon!! get real...

Answer 4

Just to play devil's advocate, what if the medical issues of Desormeaux's son distorted his judgement and for some reason he, along with Dutrow, decided to accept compensation for seeing to it that their massively favored horse didn't win?  It would be nearly impossible to ease up on a horse like that down the stretch to finish second or third.  If he was firing down the stretch he'd be almost impossible to stop.  The only thing that Kent could have done would be to do exactly what he did, and just close him down when he did.  Was Dutrow's "sure thing" call part of the plan?  Who knows, but they said there was nothing wrong with the horse, so you never know.  There are all kinds of scenarios and ulterior motives that could have come into play.  As I said, just playing the devil's advocate.

Answer 5

It's very easy to fix a horse race just stick a small sponge up the favorite's nose.

The tricky part is how do you get Da' Tara across the line first. Your not a winner just because Big Brown doesn't win. You still have to pick a winner. How do you pick Da' Tara out of that group. You would need to fix two horses: one fixing to enhance Da' Tara and one fixing to sabotage Big Brown. That's an awful lot of fixing that would involve an awful lot of people.

Plus it wouldn't make sense...

Too much money was on the line today to do that... If he won he would of earned $600,00 and his value would have gone from $50 Million to a $100 Million. There was no bet out there that would have recovered a $50.6 Million loss... So Big Browns connections did not fix this race.

This horse just ran a dud today and Da' Tara just had a top effort.  

Maybe Brown is sick and has mucous in his lungs, maybe he had internal bleeding, maybe it was the heat...

but maybe... just maybe... what happened today was supposed to happen...

Since the 1920's history shows that there has been 19 horses that have won the Derby & Preakness and not the Belmont...

Only 11 have won all 3 legs of the Triple Crown

Today makes 20!!!

So no matter what kind of favorite you are to win the Belmont history still has you as a 2 to 1 under dog not to win it.

Answer 6

I have to ask why a sound horse who was fighting his jockey ro run the entire first part of the race would suddenly ' run out of gas'. Big Brown was never in distress and to rely on just a word of mouth by the jockey is very naive. The bookies would have had to pay out millions of millions of dollars if BB had won.

The horse that won, 38-1 odds, just a handful of winning bets compared to the cyclone speculation on Brown winning. Desormeaux is a well respected jockey but has had ethic troubles in the past that are public knowledge. It's a terrible terrible price for financial security over conscience.

In today's media where nothing is off limits to probe and investigate I would like to see some acknowledgment to this possibility. The story might not quite have the Tatum O'neil chum bait for headlines but Big Brown was an astounding athlete and the first horse I've seen that had that race in his back pocket. Question is does Desormeaux now have a little extra in his.

Answer 7

No, Today's Horse race wasn't fixed.  If you watch the video, Big Brown wants to break early, and as they are going through the final turn, Kent Desormeaux asked Big Brown for another one of his powerful end of race runs, but Big Brown didn't have anything left in him.  Plus, if it was rigged, they would have rigged it so that you have a triple crown winner, not the only contender finishing dead last.  Make it close if your going to rig it.

Answer 8

This was already asked in an earlier thread and I said definitely not that time and say it again. Most respondents in the earlier thread said the same thing.

You might want to check that earlier thread, "Was the Belmont Fixed?" for more detailed answers that I'll leave to the previous respondents to repeat ... or not.

Klea :)

Answer 9

No.  Most of the horses in the race had better breeding than Big Brown for that distance.

Answer 10

Just the facts. 6m was on him to win just at the track. If you think "they" were going to let him win and have to pay out even at 1-4 odds ......My bet is we will never again in our lifetime see a triple crown winner. Way to  much money as this raced proved.

Answer 11

NO....Now   CAN YOU PLEASE STOP ALL THIS NONSENSE?

Answer 12

It was fixed. This was simply horse racing fix 30,743 if you wish to keep track in this sport which is commonly called the red light district of sports betting.

Answer 13

> Plus, if it was rigged, they would have rigged it so that you

> have a triple crown winner, not the only contender finishing

> dead last. Make it close if your going to rig it.

Wrong. Horse-racing, like boxing, is a "sport" with a deep, deep history of rigging to line the pockets of Dah Big Playah's at the expense of the gazillions of ordinary schmoes who buy all those millions of "to win" and "to place" tickets.

How the "rig" works: Set up a horse to win the first two legs of the Triple and get a lot of hype going about a potential "Triple Crown", make it seem like that horse cannot possibly lose, and just rake in bucketloads of cash at the betting windows. Then, have the horse fail to "place" (doesn't make 1st, 2nd or 3rd), and you'll have more money than God -- because 99% of the betting slips are for the "sure-fire winner" to win or place (while the big money bets *against* that horse and for the other nags shooed in to the winning slots).

Ticket-sales and TV-rights are piddly; the huge money is in taking schmucks to the cleaners.

Rinse & repeat every few years.

People you should never trust at a horse-race:

1) The owner.

2) The jockey.

3) The media.

4) The "betting line".

5) Anybody else talking about the race.

4) The horse (if it can talk too).

Answer 14

Probably not... It's kinda hard to set up a race with 1,200 pound animals with no manners or obedience what so ever. (not saying horses have bad manners just saying that of all the off the track tb's I've encountered they've all had bad manners.)