Was there ever an indigenous Arab population in Israel?

Question

Was there ever a significant indigenous Arab population in Israel and if so what percentage of the current Arabs in the area known as "Israel, West Bank and Gaza" actually have any claim?

Answer 1

NO.

Answer 2

Shy P gave you a great answer

You might wanna check out my question "So the "Palestinians" think they've always lived in Palestine??", I would post the link but for some reason my questions always get deleted when I post a link to another question, just type it in the search box.

I found that in 1890 there was a total of 431,000 Muslims and 42,900 Jews.

I could not find accurate statistics of anything before that.

It is known thought that the first big Jewish immigration was in 1882.

Shy stated that : "In fact, according to official Ottoman Turk census figures, in 1882, in the entire Land of Israel, there were only 141 000 Muslims, both Arab and non-Arab. This number was to skyrocket to 650 000 Arabs by 1922, a 450% increase in only 40 years. By 1938 that number would become over 1 million or an 800% increase in only 56 years. Population growth was especially high in areas where Jews lived. Where did all these Arabs come from?"

From a little search I found the the numbers vary from 141,000 to 246,000 depending on the source.

so it seams there were only between 141,000- 246,000 Arabs when Jews first arrived so many of them have indeed immigrated from other parts of the region.

It is a known fact that the Jews who came from Europe came with knowledge and raised the living conditions and economics in the region, this caused Arabs to immigrate to the region as well in response to Jewish enterprise.

These Arabs have no more claim to Israel/"Palestine" then the Jews who came from Europe do, many came from Arab countries and considering the fact that Jews today are only 2% of the world population we could have never outnumbered them.

Considering they claim to be there for 2000 years, they have never asked for Independence until the Jews were given the right to a "national home for the Jewish people".

There were close to 1 million Jewish refugees who were expelled from Arab countries before and after 1948, no one hears about them because many of them have settled in Israel, around 580,000 to be correct, the rest settled in other countries.

These Jews who settled in Israel left Jewish owned real estate which sums up to 4 times the state of Israel and the property they have left is estimated at billions of dollars, Jews have settled in 1/4 of the space they have been kicked out of, their descendants today in Israel are over 3.5 million.

You can find the accurate numbers from wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exod...

Considering all the facts I can't help but wonder if anti semitism(or anti Jewish ideology) in Europe was not a world wide issue, perhaps they weren't wanted in Palestine either, the riots in Palestine were no different then the ones in Europe, in fact in 1941 the grand Mufti of Jerusalem "Haj Amin Al Husseini" flew to Germany to meet with Hitler, Himmler and Von Ribbentrop to discuss the "Jewish Problem".

Over 20,000 Muslims volunteered to join the S.S and killed hundreds of thousand of Jews.

They have also sent thousands of Jews who came to enter Palestine to escape the n**i's back to die in the death camps.

Yet they deny and minimize the holocaust just like certain n**i groups do, others don't deny it but praise it.

They have no more claim to the land then we do yet they have 22 states while we have one

http://www.iris.org.il/sizemaps/arabwrld...

The truth is that no Arab country wants an independent Palestine, neither  do they  want the "Palestinians" in their countries -that is why after 60 years they are still considered refugees.

They know that if they keep them poor and unemployed they keep them  violent.

http://www.terrorismawareness.org/what-r...

Answer 3

Hi you

Yes, there was an indigenous Palestinian population  in Palestine. what wasn't is Israel.

Israel is only 60 years old.

Sincerely

Ms Miche    xo})

Answer 4

Was there ever an indigenous European population in the Americas?

Answer 5

No.  They are indigenous to the region just like we are indigenous to the rest of the Arab region.

Considering all the calculations Israel includes both Gaza and Judea and Samaria (West bank.)

They do not get to expel us from Arab countries while they also send more Arabs to inhabit our lands.

We are indigenous they have their land and we have ours.

Just sue the Arabs like Qadaffi said he already predicted we'd win :)

Answer 6

I don't think the word Arab was even invented when  Israel went into exile.

The few that were there pre 48 were given a choice by the Arab neighbors leave or die with the Jew.  

Those that stayed have legal clam.  Those that left do not.

You will find that most of the people of Gaza and the WB originally came from other nations where they were no better off.

Jordon didn't want them and still doesn't.  Egypt didn't want them or even Gaza back.  Still doesn't.they should have sent the first bunch packing and we wouldn't be having these discussions.

Answer 7

Far from being settled by Palestinians for hundreds, if not thousands of years, the Land of Israel, according to dozens of visitors to the land, was, until the beginning of the last century, practically empty. Alphonse de Lamartine visited the land in 1835. In his book, "Recollections of the East," he writes "Outside the gates of Jerusalem we saw no living object, heard no living sound…." None other than the famous American author Mark Twain, who visited the Land of Israel in 1867, confirms this. In his book "The Innocents Abroad" he writes, "A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action. We reached Tabor safely…. We never saw a human being on the whole journey." Even the British Consul in Palestine reported in 1857, "The country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants and therefore its greatest need is that of a body of population…"

In fact, according to official Ottoman Turk census figures, in 1882, in the entire Land of Israel, there were only 141 000 Muslims, both Arab and non-Arab. This number was to skyrocket to 650 000 Arabs by 1922, a 450% increase in only 40 years. By 1938 that number would become over 1 million or an 800% increase in only 56 years. Population growth was especially high in areas where Jews lived. Where did all these Arabs come from?

According to the Arabs the huge increase in their numbers was due to natural childbirth. In 1944, for example, they alleged that the natural increase (births minus deaths) of Arabs in the Land of Israel was the astounding figure of 334 per 1000. That would make it roughly three times the corresponding rate for the same year of Lebanon and Syria and almost four times that of Egypt, considered amongst the highest in the world. Unlikely, to say the least. But if the massive increase was not due to natural births, then were did all these Arabs come from?

All the evidence points to the neighboring Arab states of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan. In 1922 the British Governor of the Sinai noted that "illegal immigration was not only going on from the Sinai, but also from Transjordan and Syria."

In 1930 the British Mandate sponsored Hope-Simpson Report noted that "unemployment lists are being swollen by immigrants from Trans-Jordania" and "illicit immigration through Syria and across the northern frontier of Palestine is material". Indeed the Arabs themselves bare witness to this trend. For example, the governor of the Syrian district of Hauran, Tewfik Bey el Hurani, admitted in 1934 that in a single period of only a few months over 30 000 Syrians from Hauran had moved to the Land of Israel. Even British Prime Minister Winston Churchill noted the Arab influx. Churchill, a veteran of the early years of the British mandate in the Land of Israel, noted in 1939 that "far from being persecuted the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied."

Far from displacing the Arabs, as they claimed, the Jews were the very reason the Arabs chose to settle in the Land of Israel. Jobs provided by newly established Zionist industry and agriculture lured them there just as Israeli construction and industry provides most Land of Israel Arabs with their main source of income today. Malcolm MacDonald, one of the principal authors of the British White Paper of 1939, which restricted Jewish immigration to the Land of Israel admitted (conservatively) that were it not for a Jewish presence the Arab population would have been little more than half of what it actually was. Today, when due to the latest "Intifada", Arabs from the territories under 35 are no longer allowed into pre-1967 Israel to work, unemployment has skyrocketed to over 40% and most rely on European aid packages to survive.

But not only pre-state Arabs lied about being indigenous. Even today, many prominent so-called Palestinians, it turns out, are foreign born. Edward Said, an Ivy League Professor of Literature and a major Palestinian propagandist, long claimed to have been raised in Jerusalem. But in an article in the September 1999 issue of Commentary Magazine, Justus Reid Weiner revealed that Said actually grew up in Cairo, Egypt, a fact which Said himself was later forced to admit to. But why bother with Said? PLO chief Yasser Arafat himself, and self-declared "leader of the Palestinian people", has always claimed to have been born and raised in "Palestine". In fact, according to his official biographer Richard Hart as well as the BBC, Arafat was born in Cairo on August 24, 1929 and that's where he grew up.

To maintain the charade of being an indigenous population, Arab propagandists have had to do more than a little rewriting of history. A major part of this rewriting involves the renaming of geography. For two thousand years the central mountainous region of Israel was known as Judea and Samaria, as any medieval map of the area testifies. But ever since Jordan occupied the area in 1948 they renamed it the West Bank. This is a funny name for a region which actually lies in the eastern portion of the land and can only be called "West" in reference to Jordan. This does not seem to bother the majority of news outlets, which cover the region and universally refer to the region by its recent Jordanian name.

The term "Palestinian" is itself a masterful twisting of history. To portray themselves as indigenous, Arab settlers adopted the name of an ancient Canaanite tribe, the Philistines, that died out over almost 3000 years ago. The connection between this tribe and modern day Arabs is nil. But who is to know the difference?

Given the absence of any historical record, one begins to understand why Yasser Arafat claims that Jesus Christ, a Jewish carpenter from the Galilee, was a Palestinian. Every year at Christmas time Arafat goes to Bethlehem and tells worshippers that Jesus was in fact "the first Palestinian."

In spite of the historical evidence, the media has succeeded in implanting the idea that there is a people called the Palestinians. No wonder then that a recent poll of French citizens shows that the majority believe (falsely) that prior to the establishment of the State of Israel an independent Arab Palestinian state existed in its place. In fact, no independent Arab state ever existed in the geographic area Arabs call Palestine. Nor was there ever, throughout human history, a country called Palestine. The last independent state to exist in the region, prior to the establishment of the modern State of Israel in 1948, was the ancient Jewish State of Judea 2000 years ago.

If the Palestinians are indeed a myth, then the real question becomes "Why?" Why invent an imaginary people? The answer is, the myth of the Palestinian people serves as the justification for the Arab occupation of the Land of Israel. While the Arabs already possess 21 sovereign countries of their own (more than any other people on earth) and control a land mass 800 times the size of the Land of Israel, this is apparently not enough for them. They therefore feel the need to rob the Jews of their one and only country, one of the smallest on the planet. Unfortunately, many people ignorant of the history of the region, including much of the world media, are only too willing to help.

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Answer 8

I love how all the Pro Israeli people have their answers blocked for bad rating.  Every answer on here that isn't blocked is a lie.  Yitzchak, or Isaac, the son of Abraham and the longest lived of the Patriarchs, also talked about in the Muslim religion, would be considered the first Jew.  He was part of the land of Canaan, which is modern day Israel plus more.  The first actual powerful country in that land was called, The United Kingdom of Israel, founded by King Saul, father of David.  This was in 1080 BC.  

This kingdom was founded after the Exodus were Moses (a greatly respected prophet of the Muslim Faith) brought the people of Israel, the Hebrews who were taken into slavery in Egypt, the descendants of Abraham, to this land of Yisra'el.  

To answer your question, where the others have not, yes.  There was an Arab presence in Israel since the time of the land of Canaan.  There was also a Hebrew presence.  This is the only area, however, in the middle east that has had a Hebrew presence.  All the other countries have been dominated by the other ethnicities in the region, mainly, Arab, Persian and Turk.  

Jewish people do not claim their land to be Jordan or Syria or Egypt (which they built BTW) or the Arabias or Iran.  These are all places that have long since been dominated by Turks and Arabs and Persians.  Israel is the only place that has had a strong and lasting Jewish presence.  

I would invite you to do more research on the topic if you are truly seeking knowledge.  If you wish to have some good incite and literature into the subject, feel free to email me and I will provide you with what ever I can.  

Cheers,

James

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You uneducated people really need to stop saying that it was Palestine.  If you are going to argue about something, at least know something of what you are talking about.  There has never, at any time, been a state called Palestine.  The only reason that the name was ever used was because the people who were given the rights of govern by the Turks during the Ottoman Empire where descendants of the people the Romans called Philitia.  They named the mandate Palestine until a suitable government could be installed and it given a proper name

Answer 9

if "arab" means "from the arabian peninsula" the odds are that some ofd the people wandered over history and ended up in the area of what is now called israel. it is also likely that some people can trace themselves back to nomadic tribes who are middle eastern but not arab. of course, there are probably people in england who can trace themselves back to the anglo saxons, gauls, visigoths etc but so what.

Answer 10

Israel is palestine's land, and it was full of arabs.

no single jew until the land got stolen.

Answer 11

The entire population was of Arab ancestry,including the Jews,until Maurice Rothschild began exporting Eastern European jews to Palestine in 1882.

I would have to wonder why you would ask,since you obviously will cling to your government's stale propaganda line regardless of historical fact. Frankly,there is nothing more boring than zionist propaganda; a child could see through it.

Answer 12

Yes, the European jews that live there today are mostly coverts and the land was stolen by they, and doomsday Christians Evangelic that want the world to end help them... God didn't give anyone s_h_i_t, it all religious BS

http://www.friendsofpalestine.org.au/ima...

Answer 13

Yes and the percentage would be equal or higher than that of the non Arabs. People drift around,nothing new about that.