Was this comment(s) sexists and/or misogynic?

Question

In today’s society the role of provider is being taken up by women more and more, hence the role of provider is being taken up by men less and less. Now women are forced to turn to the law to get many men to help support their children, once upon a time actions like this were not likely to be necessary. Unfortunately as powerful as the law may be it cannot make baby daddy’s turn into fathers. That is now the problem; men are becoming an endangered species. Each generation there are less men teaching boys how to be men, instead many women are teaching them something they are not equipped to teach. Don’t believe me? Ask yourself whether the sons of families without fathers are, in general, more violent or less violent than sons who have been raised with a strong father present. Unintentionally or not I don’t think the negative effects of the feminist movement can be denied, so now that the problem has been identified how do we fix it?

Answer 1

I don't know why your question was deleted.  I don't find it offensive at all.  In fact, I agree.

I understand why there was a women's lib movement.  Women were sometimes treated like second class citizens.  However, are women getting treated better now?  They might get better pay now then they used to, but that's about it.  Men took care of their women better than they do now.  Now kids have to go to daycare and be raised by strangers because women can't afford to stay at home with their kids.  Men don't make enough money because the money is going to their female counterparts at work.  

Also, you're right.  It doesn't matter how great a mother is, she's still not a dad.  

I think the neutering of society is really doing us all a disservice.  Men should be men and women should be women.  That's in our DNA.  I'm not saying men are better or vice versa, we're just different.

Kessie, I have 4 cousins who were raised by lesbians and all 4 of them strongly believe in g**s and lesbians NOT having kids.

Answer 2

I don't think that you are neccesarily downing women or being sexist.  But comparing women's struggles to equality to an amputation might sound a little crude to some people.

Answer 3

I don't think it's offensive. I think it's an opinion and viewpoint. People are quick to jump to being defensive when people speak against feminism because it sounds like gender racism. But I think it's fine to believe what you said.

Answer 4

It wasn't either, it was just inaccurate. Feminism isn't responsible for deadbeat dads. Deadbeat dads are responsible for themselves.

Answer 5

I wouldn't say that it was really sexist all though I would say that it is just an opinion supported by no facts.  I think that domestic violence is the reason for violent children.  Kids tend to learn what they see.  Also the only blame I think women can take on these is choosing/falling for the wrong guy.  Most Single mother homes are because the guy was a loser; he beat her, cheated on her, for some reason he left her and the kids.  She picked a bad mate.  Luckily their are some great men out there for the women who pick carefully.

It is sad that in your opinion we should blame the feminist movement for empowering women. In your opinion the empowering of women has lead an excuse to men to be as a lot of men here would say "pussified".  So at the first sign of women as competition men that the great revenge would be to beat women, use them, cheat on them, leave them with no food for them and their kids, force their kids to grow up in poverty and to leave children with no father to lead the way.   Was this to force us to see how S****y ourlives are if we do not step in line shake our heads and say "wow we didn't think this through; let me get in the kitchen and get you a beer; just come back to me".  The truth is I have seen great kids come from fatherless homes and motherless homes because the good parent who sticks around ensures that those kids have good same gender role models.  Any sperm donor can be a father but it takes a real man to be a daddy.  By the way I also have seen lousy kids come from dual households where one/two of the parents where abusive or just not really there even though they were there.

So were men only responsible for the children because society expected it off them?  Do men not have any honor in their hearts to do the right thing?  Also if men are so against abortion did they ever think that most women I have known get one because the father is absent or a**whole?  

Luckily for us not all men are like that; some are providers and appreciate the women providing with them.  They are more loving and open then the men of the 1950's who were not fathers like the Beav' had.

Edit: I understand that you partly blame feminism but also do not want to go back in time to how it was.  However you did say that feminism was the doctor  and that sexism and gender bias was only a diseases limb the doctor cut off wrong and thus killed the patient.  I feel that my life is better because of feminism; yes it can be harder but thats what makes it worth it.  To know one is truly free and alive is the greatest thing of all.

Number two:  Why don't you share the sites of these facts to back up your hypothesis. As for statistics yes I can't help myself I look at them all.  Those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat it.  So when its winter I look at the last years weather and the prediction for this one and I dress accordingly.  I then go outside and see if I may need to bring a jacket or not.

Number three:  I know men and women born to lousy parents either one or both.  I have seen those children grow up and be better people.    I have noticed from my personal experience that whether a boy had a father or not the great ones have always been the ones that have a great relationship with their mothers.  Honor is something anyone can attain no matter family situation we know it is out there and we know how to do it.  Fathers are not the only ones who teach honor and if that were the case it would take a thousand years to correct because then by your theory no man would step up and take care of their families because they had not had a father to teach them to.

EDIT: I have never seen these violent men raised only by women.  So that is the reason I ask for statistics.  No I know that fire burns so I would immediately put me out that was a lame come back. Why do men have to be traditional. You made a comment about turning baby daddy into fathers... I have always heard that any man can be a father but it takes a real man to be a daddy. Unlike traditional fathers todays new daddies can cook, clean, show love and emotion.  They also teach them honor and responsibility.  I have no idea where you live.

Answer 6

It's not misogynistic, but you're falling into that weird trap of trying to claim that it's somehow the fault of feminism that men impregnate women and don't stick around to help raise the children.

No one. NO ONE who makes this claim has ever been able to provide a credible or coherent argument for why they believe this is so.

Sounds like an excuse for bad male behavior to me.

Answer 7

I think for once the feminists cannot be blamed for deleting a question - wow, who wudda thought ~

What you posted was a valid opinion on your observations and contains some truth.  I take issue with boys being raised by women sans male role models because it depends on the mother.  My son has done well in all areas of his life and wouldn't change a thing - he even allows his sperm donor to stay and visit yearly even though my son was already a better father to his three month old child than his father had been to him his entire life.  My son was always encouraged by me to use his intelligence - something sorely missing from the masses and that's what makes the difference.

There are plenty of g*y couples raising children of both genders and those kids are turning out to be pretty unique.  Think about it.

Answer 8

Everything in life has a consequences, maybe good or bad.