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Well has the West been told off by China, and do they have a point?

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  1. There is an ancient Chinese proverb:

    Look to your roof for snow, before pointing out the snow on your neighbours doorstep.

    I think there's a Christian version too, so it shouldn't really be news to the majority of Americans.

    Both sides could do with some contemplation of this message for various reasons.


  2. Yeah point of the Chop stick

  3. Yes and no. In the sense that they are using less per capita than other countries, true. But if you are assuming increased CO2 emissions are  a problem (and it seems to be a definite possibility) then they are arguing that it's OK for China to add even more fuel to the fire because the west made the same mistake first? In any event the oil is running out, pollution and overpopulation is still a huge problem, and the climate is going to do stuff no matter what...the next few decades are going to be a h**l of a ride...

  4. Well done China, keep it coming son!

    He shouldn't have been so polite and just said 'you fat American b******s' rather than 'developed countries'

  5. when you think about how much energy the west in general and the US in particular have consumed over the last 150 years, the chinese certainly have a point

    the fact that the US and europe dont seem to be serious about tackling climate change adds further weight to the chinese argument

    "It's like there is one person who eats three slices of bread for breakfast, and there are three people, each of whom eats only one slice. Who should be on a diet?"

    lol he shouldve said its like theres one huge american eating 3 huge stacks of pancakes drenched in syrup for breakfast

  6. Did you know that bees have disappeared totally from some parts of China due to pollution?

    Big deal right? Wrong because without pollinating insects all crops will fail and the only solution is hand pollination. They do it with feathers on sticks.

    The bee population has fallen in North America and in Europe suddenly and dramaticly and it will if it continues have a huge impact on the food chain.

    Whilst we sit and argue about who is the worse our planet seems to be changing. Butterfly's are also pollinators and today its been announced that they are on the decrease in the UK too.

    Its scary and yet we do nothing but ignore what's happening all around us and argue about it. If all the insects die the planet will die within 50 years. If the human race dies the planet will flourish! We need to do something all of us now before its too late! Especially if we like honey!

  7. The US is the worst in the world ............ and yes China has a point.

  8. It's just the west being jealous over china and it's booming economy

  9. They have a point..go China go...we need to change..b4 pointing fingers at others....hypocrites..

  10. China have a valid point

  11. All this from a country who ignores our patents, killed off female babies and buys all our lead. No they don't, there culture is one of not to be seen to lose face, some call it the middle kingdom effect. I think they're point scoring politically, I mean look at Taiwan and PRC. supposedly they're not friends but look at all the trade.

  12. Greenhouse gasses.

    It's a GLOBAL CON!!!

    Of all the carbon produced globally in a year, 2% is produced by human activity. The oceans alone produce and release more than 40% of the billions of tons released into our atmosphere.

    Forests and pastures produce most of the rest. YES, I know that trees consume carbon dioxide and produce oxygen. BUT rotting vegitation gives of carbon. Animals produce more than we do. Should we kill them all?

    It's time to reject a generation of brainwashing. Climate change is innevitable. Our climate has been changing in cycles of hot/cold ever since the Earth had an atmosphere. We are NOT to blame.

    World governments, and the scientific community are distracting us from the REAL threats to our excistence. Overpopulation being top of the list.

    watch 'the great global warming conspiracy' and learn the truth.

    And yes, I realise that almost everyone on here will slate me for saying this. But hey. Like I care what you guys think.

    Polution is another matter. We need to stop poisoning the planet. But Global Warming is coming, whether we like it or not.

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