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Were AbuBaker, Umer and Uthman SINLESS (not-Evil-doer)?

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You are right but my question to Sunnis is that "Are they 'not Evil-Doers"

Quran says that Imam CAN "NOT BE AN EVIL DOER".

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  1. Prove your claim about "Quran says that Imam CAN "NOT BE AN EVIL DOER"."

    Allah has acknowledged the spirit of Sahabas in Quran:

    PROOF:

    9:117 Allah turned with favour to the Prophet, the MUHAJIRs, and the Ansar,- who followed him in a time of distress, after that the hearts of a part of them had nearly swerved (from duty); but He turned to them (also): for He is unto them Most Kind, Most Merciful.

    59:8 (Some part is due) to the indigent MUHAJIRs, those who were expelled from their homes and their property, while seeking Grace from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure, and aiding Allah and His Messenger. such are indeed the sincere ones:-

    9:100 The vanguard (of Islam)- the first of those who forsook (their homes) and of those who gave them aid, and (also) those who follow them in (all) good deeds,- well- pleased is Allah with them, as are they with Him: for them hath He prepared gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein for ever: that is the supreme felicity.

    4:100 He who forsakes his home in the cause of Allah, finds in the earth Many a refuge, wide and spacious: Should he die as a refugee from home for Allah and His Messenger

    Edit: At Asker's proof;

    No name is mentioned in this verse. Infact, the whole Arab were descendants of Hazrat Ibraheem. People of Makkah were descendants of Hazrat Ismail and People of Madina were descendants of Hazrat Is'haq. So, according to the verse, anyone can be a Khalifa or Imam if he is on straight path. I have given enough proofs to clarify the status of Sahabas in the sight of Allah.


  2. In shias' religion imam is sinless ,

    So why  shias imam Ali (ra) gave pledge alligiance to them

    and supported them through out his life .

  3. they weren't evil nor sinless, unlike your Imams!

  4. Only Our beloved Prophet Muhammad Mustafa (saww) and his Lovelly family (ahly bait )were  sinless.

    The others are all full of SINS

  5. Dawn hit the point!!

    i agree with him!!

  6. evil doers or not evil doers,it doesn't matter,will Allah Almighty forgive our sins if we believed they were sinless or not !! is it integral part of our iman to believe this !! ,our Iman does not revolve around them,our Iman revolves around Glorious Quran.it is sad abu bakr didnt give Fatimah's due share,according to hadith he said that Prophet's progeny doesnt get any share.that was a ruling totaly against the Inheritance laws prescribed by Allah Allmighty in Glorious Quran.others were the same,as NOT SINLESS...

    @ harrith,how do you read Quran,or do you ever Read Quran ?it is evident you revolve around,shaikhs and shaiukhs,and bin baz,and taimiyah etc..and you hardly Quote Verses of Glorious Quran

    this is how you are worst hypocrite,9:97-101,say ARAAB,which is plural of arab,means arabic people,and Not Bedouins,you will change the meaning of Quranic word to suit your own iblisi agenda and to protect arabs,where as if Allah Allmighty Says Arabs are Worst in Hypocrites and Disbelief,why would you deny it.9:101,clearly states about arab city dwellers.

    [6:114] Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?* Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt.

    another thing,read the above Verse CAREFULLY,and stop quoting the iblisi sources,am sure you are very good at Arabic Language, cant you understand the above verse,and stop accusing others of not fluent in arabic language,or not understanding Glorious Quran..this is another worst hypocrisy of yours

  7. The Messenger of Allaah salallaahu alaihi wa salam said:

    كل ابن آدم خطأ وخير الخطأين التوابون

    ((All the children of Aadam commit sin, and the best of those who commit sin are those who repent))

    Every one of the Sahaabah including 'Alee and Faatimah committed sins and repented. And Allaah has forgiven them, do you not read the Qur'aan?

    Oh but you're a Raafidhee.. you only read what you like in the way you like.

    Ibn Battah reported in his al-Ibaanah al Kubraa, in the chapter: Mentioning the sections of the Nations in their religion and upon how many sects will the Ummah split into, from the Hadeeth of Abee ‘Alee bin Ismaa’eel bin al-Abbaas al-Warraaq who said: al-Hassan bin Muhammad bin as-Sabaah az-Za’faraanee narrated to me that Shabbaabah said, that Sawaadah bin Salamah said that ‘Abdullaah bin Qays (رضي الله عنه)said:

    ((A group of Christians came to ‘Alee (رضي الله عنه)and at the head of them was a major scholar of the Jews. So the leader said: “You debate about how many groups the Jews split into?” He said: “Into seventy one sects”. And ‘Alee (رضي الله عنه)said: “And this Ummah will split into similar to that, and the most deviated and evil sect of them: the ones who call to us (Ahlul Bayt), and a sign of them is that they insult Abaa Bakr and ‘Umar رضي الله عنهما” ))

    و أبو علي بن العباس الوراق روى عنه الدارقطني و وثقه و قال الذهبي عنه: المحدث الإمام الحجة، و ذكره يوسف بن عمر القواس في جملة شيوخه الثقات

    And as for Aboo ‘Alee bin al-’Abbaas al-Warraaq, then ad-Daaruqutnee reported from him and considered him reliable. And adh-Dhahabee said about him: ((The Scholars of Hadeeth, the Imaam, the Proof)) and Yoosuf bin ‘Amr al-Qawwaas mentioned him from the reliable scholars.

    Look to Taareekh Baghdaad (6/300) of al-Khateeb al Baghdaadee and al-Muntadhim (6/27 8) of Ibnul Jawzee and Siyaar A’laam an-Nubalaa (15/74) of adh-Dhahabee.

    And al-Hassan bin Muhammad bin as-Sabaah az-Za’faraanee is Reliable. See Tahdheeb at-Tahdheeb (2/31 8) and at-Taqreeb (1/170) of Ibn Hajar al ‘Asqalaanee.

    و روى ابو القاسم البغوي عن علي رضي الله عنه قال: يخرج في أخر الزمان قوم لهم نبز (أي لقب ) يقال لهم الرافضة يعرفون به، و ينتحلون شيعتنا و ليسوا من شيعتنا، و آية ذلك أنهم يشتمون أبا بكر و عمر أينما أدركتموهم فاقتلوهم فأنهم مشركون

    And Abul Qaasim al-Baghawee reported from ‘Alee (رضي الله عنه) that he said: ((A group will arise in the last times, they will have a nickname (an insulting name), they will be known as the “Raafidhah” (rejectors) and they will be known by it. They will say that they are our “shee’ah” (our group) but they are not from our group. And the signs of that is that they will insult Abaa Bakr and ‘Umar, where ever you find them, then kill them for they are mushrikoon (polytheists)))

  8. 1)Sunni's dont believe what happened at Ghadeer-e-Kum

    2)Sunni's dont believe Abu Bakr smashed the door on Lady Fatema's tummy when she was pregnant with Mohsin (as)

    3)Sunni's dont believe that Abu Bakr stole the land of Fadak away from Lady Fatema..

    4) AND still Sunni's believe these people are good companions of the Prophet (saww). Yes, it still shocks me too.

    I believe I have answered your question : )

    Thank you ; ]

    Edit: LOL.. thanks for the thumbs down people.. muchly appreciated.. O_o

    Ahz.. I suggest you just leave thease people and just wait for the Day of Judgement. =)

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