Were the red sox stupid by dealing ramirez

Question

manny has better stats across the board

avg manny 2.99 bay 282 hrs bay 22 manny 20

rbi bay 64 manny 68

on-base manny 398 bay 375

ops manny 926 bay 894

the stats don't lie

Answer 1

No. Manny was causing chaos on and off the playing field. It's good that he's gone. I'm sure he wasn't as big of a security blanket as you describe but this trade was for the better. So what they lost a good HR hitting person in the line up, it gives someone else to grow and could eventually turn into a Manny in the future. Manny was more or less hurting the Sox rather than helping. Remember a few weeks ago when Manny kept tripping in the outfield recovering the ball? Joe Torre will straighten him up in LA

Answer 2

Right. But the fact that Manny was destroying our chemistry doesn't lie either. And, he said he didn't want to play here anymore, so what in h**l makes you think he's going to want to EXTEND the season into deep October by making they playoffs? With Manny we'll end up behind the Blue Jays!

Answer 3

You make it sound like Manny's stats are far better, when the difference is actually pretty negligible. Manny was a cancer and basically forced the trade. I guess you didn't notice that. Also, Manny has been missing quite a few games, playing in 47 fewer than Bay since 2006. And Manny is making $20M/year, while Bay is making $5.75 in '08 and $7.75 in '09. The trade made sense for several reasons.

Answer 4

No that was the right move. Yes, stats don't lie, but over the last 2 years, Bay has 2 more HR, and only 1 less RBI. Also, Bay didn't have a good team around him for him to drive in runs, imagine what he would be like in Boston.  Plus, it is 400+ in left field in Pittsburg, and there is the short Monster in left at Fenway so Bay will be able to pull the ball of that wall. Bay is peaking in his career, Manny is on the decline.  Bay is 29, Manny is 36.  Also, there was no way the Sox were gunna pick up Manny's 20 million dollar option next year, and Bay is under contract for 7 mil next year.  And according to a well-known baseball website they showed on NESN (although I cannot recall the exact spelling of the site), and it said the Sox got the best player in the deal, and at worst will keep the team latteral, if not make them better.  So, I think it was right for Manny to finally take his show to hollywood.  Even his friend David Ortiz said it was time for Manny to go. Also, in a vote taken by players, 23 out of 24 players voted for Manny to be traded.  And one more little thing, remember the critisizm for trading Nomar in 04 for two players who were deffinently worse then him, if I recall that season ended in a World Series Championship.  Above all, trust Theo, he knows what he is doing and has made many great trades and signs.

Answer 5

none of those stats cover the off field issues he has with the red sox