What's the difference between Japaneese jiu jitsu and Brazilian jiu jitsu?

Question

What do they learn/do that is different from one another...?

Answer 1

i think becaus there  from differnt countrys and thats proble whay

Answer 2

the eyes...lol

Answer 3

The names used for the submissions!

BJJ is a little better at ground fighting while JJJ is a little better at stand-up fighting.

Answer 4

Japanese Jujitsu has more techniques for taking the opponent down and as soon as you take them down the ground, I was told to immediately go for the submission. Brazilian Jujitsu was developed after the Japanese Jujtisu practitioner named Kimura taught the first Gracie some grappling. Brazilian Jujitsu mainly focuses on ground games.

After Kimura defeated the first Gracie, which was the guy he taught Jujitsu to in a tournament, Kimura asked Gracie if he can learn this Brazilian Jujitsu and he got denied.

Brazilian Jujitsu compared to the Japanese Jujitsu has less techniques since Kimura didn't teach him all the way. But I heard there are some techniques that the Gracie developed after calling it Gracie Jujitsu or Brazilian Jujitsu.

Answer 5

jiu jitsu was already before it go to brazil, it did not come from judo it was used by the samurai to finish an armored opponent once they used judo to throw them to the ground.

Answer 6

both jiu jitsu comes from the japanese art of judo.  in japan they actually do both but in japan the stand up is more popular.  when the japanes migrated to brazill back in the day the brazillians embraced judo and modified it.  it became known as jiu jitsu.

Answer 7

where did people get the idea that Jiu-Jitsu came from Judo? That's ridiculous. Judo was created, by a guy named Kano (don't remember the first name) when there was peace in Japan and Jiu Jitsu was in danger of being forgotten. He made Judo, which was a sport version, rather than combat.

On to the main question, I think the differences come from the roots. Traditional Jiu Jitsu was made for life-long warriors in a combat situation that involved armed combatants. BJJ is a modern system adapted for tournaments and street fights.

As such, BJJ is much easier to learn. Like any traditional art, Japanese Jiu Jitsu requires a long time to become really proficient. BJJ can be picked up much easier. The style of teaching typically also reflects whether you're learning the traditional or modern style (think many repetitions at slow-mo to perfect the motion and stylized combinations for the same rather than more dynamic and fast action right from the start)

As well, since there were other, armed opponents around, even with Bushido and all that, Traditional Jiu Jitsu seems to have a lot more standup fighting. The goal is to damage your opponent a lot, and then disengage. There is a lot of blocking, punching, and hitting the guy when you knock him down. BJJ has a lot more focus on time-consuming, but effective, ground work. For example, an early move I learned in traditional Jiujitsu was to block a hook punch, while driving in with a punch to the face, then turn while delivering more blows, flip the opponent, punch hime while he's down (several times) and finally break his arm at the elbow and wrist (brutal huh? I LOVE it!!). The you search for the next opponent.

In BJJ, a more typical response would be to duck inside the punch, do a takedown, drop into side control, and then work from there. It would probably end up with a choke or lock (although now, combined with other arts in mma, a fighter might just as well ground and pound instead).

Answer 8

japanese teaches katas,punches,kicks,weapons, throws,submissions,and the ways of budo. its very traditional oritented. Bjj is mostly all groundfighting and submissions, they heavily emphasice mat work.

Answer 9

Judo was developed from older styles of Japanses Ju-jitsu.



One student of Kano Jigoro (the founder of JUDO) moved to Brazil and taught Carlos and Helio Gracie, the founders of BJJ.

BRAZILIAN JU-JITSU WAS DEVELOPED FROM EARLY JUDO.  

At the time, the term "Judo" was new and unfamiliar, many people still called it ju-jitsu instead of Judo.

Look it up on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ju-jitsu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_J...

Old (martial) Japanese Ju-jitsu

-> JUDO

-> New (sport) Briazilian Ju-jitsu

Japanese "martial" Ju-jitsu has many varied styles.  Some of them resemble Aikido (also comes from Ju-jitsu), which employs no groundfighting techniques.  Many others incorporated standing and ground techniques similar to Judo and BJJ.  Many were (are) practiced ritualistically, and never attempt techniques on a resistive opponent, while others employ an amount of freestyle "sparring" like Judo and BJJ.

Many of the techniques are the same in both ju-jitsus, BJJ schools put a much greater emphasis on freestyle practice than most Japanese schools, but some schools are changing as a result of pressure put on other styles by the competiveness of BJJ.

Wikipedia:  Jujutsu ...evolved among the samurai of feudal Japan as a method for dispatching an armed and armored opponent in situations where the use of weapons was impractical or forbidden. Due to the difficulty of dispatching an armored opponent with striking techniques, the most efficient methods for neutralizing an enemy took the form of pins, joint locks, and throws.

Judo was developed from Japanese Ju-jitsu by Kano Jigoro (1860-1938) when he was in his 20's (1880-something).

Mitsuyo Maedaone, one of Kano Jigoro's students, was sent to Brazil as a diplomat in 1914 (Judo had only been around for 30+years at the time).  Maeda met an influential businessman named Gastão Gracie who helped him get established. In 1917, his son Carlos Gracie, still a 14 year-old boy, watched a demonstration by Maeda ... Maeda accepted Carlos as a student, and Carlos, with his younger brother Hélio Gracie became the founder of ... modern Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.

The Gracie family continued to develop the system throughout the 20th century, often fighting vale tudo matches (precursors to modern MMA), during which it increased its focus on ground fighting and refined its techniques.

What's the difference between Judo and BJJ?

Primarily the rules for scoring points:

In Judo, two standing opponents get a full point for one, good clean throw or sweep, and maybe a half-point for one not-so clean technique that got the job done.   If both fall to the ground, but not as the result of an effective throw or sweep the fight continues on the ground (with a time limit).  A match may be one by holding an opponent immobile with a headlock or other technique for 25 seconds.  This would score a few points in BJJ, but would not end the match.  Naturally, the standing throws and sweeps are slightly more important in Judo, though groundwork is still necessary (some would argue they are equal in Judo).

Judo matches are won by the first full point (or two half-points)

BJJ matches are won by total points accumulated during the time period of the match (4 minutes or 5 minutes).  A successfully executed throw, take down or sweep could score a point, but the fight would continue, with points continuously awarded for achieving a superior positions.  BJJ matches could end 5-points to 6 points or 11 points to 8, unlike Judo which ends with the first full point.

BJJ matches may also be won by a decisive submission technique such as arm bar, choke, etc., that causes the opponent to submit by "tapping" the ground with one hand, but would not be ended by holding an opponent immobile for 25 seconds, like in Judo.

Because of the rules of BJJ competition, extensive groundfighting expertise is more advantageous than standing techniques, and are thus emphasized in training.



The rules of Judo competition require excellent skill at throws and sweeps from a standing position, which are thsu emphasized in Judo training.

The rules of BJJ may more closely resemble the "no-rules" scenario of a street fight:  just because he's on the ground doesn't mean he's going to stop fighting.  

It does make sense, however, that in a street fight there may be multiple attackers, or knives or guns, and it could be very advantageous to dispatch an attacker with a single, quick and poweful Judo technique that does not require you yourself to be on the ground , fully commited to the first attacker and unable to deal with a second (BJJ).

The mantra of many BJJ schools is that "99% of all fights go to the ground".  That may be true for highly trained fighters in a controlled sports competition with no  concealed knives or guns.  

But I have a good friend who lived in foster homes and government institutions from the age of 8 to 18, was in about a hundred or so street fights during that part of his life, once even breaking an opponents arm.  

How many of those fights went to the ground?  Not a single one.

I still think I would choose BJJ.  I've done a little of both - BJJ is easier if your not so young any more.  But it's a difficult choice; Judo is very enjoyable and effective.  Japanese ju-jitsu?  Ritual-based,AIkido like non-competitive styles: been, there, did that, didn't get much out of it.  Competitive styles that train groundfighting; only if they train like a BJJ school.  

The main difference is not in the techniques.  They mostly use the same techniques.  The difference is in the way the train - BJJ trains realistically, Japanese Ju-jitsu often, but not always, trains more ritualistically than realistically.

Answer 10

Japanese Jiujitsu is several hundred years old, and rooted in the art of war aka Budo. it's sort of like Judo except the opponent ends up hospitalized or dead, including mostly joint breaks, choke holds, and throws intended to incapacitate or kill.

The main purpose of the Japanese variant was to allow the Samurai time to fend for themselves until they could reach another weapon.

Brazilian jiu jitsu (BJJ) goes back to the Gracie family that learned judo variants from a Japanese master wandering South America. It focused more on how to deal with street fighting, and had a lot of competition from very early on, including the development of what is now MMA. BJJ has the advantage of being very physically oriented without necessarily being designed for slaughter.

Many of the techniques are similar, although BJJ acquired some new techniques through interaction with other martial artists, such as the "Kimura".