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What's the number of the Palestinian refugees that Israel would accept to get back and nationalize ?

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Is it possible that the problem of the Palestinian refugees can be solved if Israel can reach an agreement of the number it will accept ,and also nationalize them.or even give them a citizenship ?Why didn't Israel think about that before?

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  1. Israel has been trying to pressure its own Palestinian citizens into leaving (it prosecuted one of the Arab members of the knesset just for saying that Israel should be a state for all its citizens).  It has exiled hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from the occupied territories, and applied various discrimnatory practices against those that remain (e.g. confiscating their land to build Jewish-only roads and settlements, denying them permits to build while freely giving them to Jews, denying them access to equivalent water resources as Jews, allowing settlers to murder them often with impunity, encouraging Jews to live in the occupied territories while requiring permits for Palestinians then denying such permits on the least excuse)

    This is on top of the many massacres of helpless civilians carried out by Israel's founders which caused the Palestinians to become refugees in the first place.  The reason for getting rid of the Palestinians was to establish the Jewish state - they would have been the majority in the area that became green-line Israel but Israel's Zionist founders wouldn't have tolerated even a substantial non-Jewish minority.

    In short, Israel was founded on ethnic cleansing and by design has tried to eliminate its non-Jewish population, as a state it was set up to exclude them.  I hope that answers your question regarding why didn't Israel think about letting Palestinians back before.  

    In fact after the 1948 war of Israel's founding 10s of thousands of Palestinian refugees attempted to re-enter Israel, mostly unarmed and many only trying to collect goods they'd left behind or harvest (many were practically starving after being expelled from their homes and farmland) or visit relatives.  Israeli military policy was to shoot any male "infiltrator" on site, in practice men, women and children were shot.  1000s were killed.

    As presently configured, Israel wouldn't accept sufficient refugees to achieve anything near a just solution, and as it denies it did anything wrong in massacring so many causing them to flee, it probably wouldn't admit any as it would be regarded as such an admission.


  2. The problem of the palestinian refugees shouldn't be dropped at Israel's doorstep.  The answer should be Zero.

    The palestinian region is home to Israel AND Jordan.  Both these countries have already absorbed a palestinian population and the myth of a pre-determination for a separate Palestinian people is the fabrication of many Arab and Muslim nations.  They need to bear some responsibility in this.

    If Israel accepts more palestinians to its nation it risks legitimatizing the extremist anti-Israel agenda.  Israel also risks losing its standing as a democracy within a Jewish state by a large anti-Israel demographic voting population.

    Israel can avoid the democracy issue by making herself a theocracy.  In Israel's prior biblical history when kings were elected this is not something that should be taken lightly. Theocracy should be carefully thought out and for all the right reasons and for this reason I don't consider it the right decision in this instance.

    I think the solution to this is to give them Gaza and make it work.  That isn't IMO biblical land and they can expand further into Sinai with it if they need more space.  If they actually gave up hostility and tried to make something work they'd be able to move more freely around the planet as well as settling in other countries.

    Egypt spoon-fed the PLO in its infancy to fight both Israel and Jordan and created this radical fighting monster that Jordan later expelled to be orphaned at Israel's doorstep.  Let Egypt suffer the consequences not Jordan or Israel.

    Just under half of Israel's Jewish population are refugees from Arab nations and Israel foot the bill for their immigration to their homeland.  

    Let the Arabs and Muslims foot the bill for palestinian habitation in Gaza and Sinai.

    Fair is fair.

  3. Exactly 0.

    These "refugees" left on their own accord. There is and never should be a "right of return"

  4. Israel should not accept the Palestinian refuges back because their enemies will see this as weakness and press forward with war, but now with sympathizers inside Israel.  

    Israel is in a loose/loose situation.   Since they do not take the refuges back, they are condemned by the Arab nations (who don’t want the refuges either) but if they take them back, Israel as a nation will be over.

  5. ZERO

    They have enough problems with whatever they have and they will do anything to get rid of them.

  6. your answer is probably zero.

    the Palestinian refugees are a result of the 1948 war - which the Arabs had started. during that period, and later years, many Arabs fled from Israel, but not many know that just as many Jews were kicked out of Arab countries. the difference is that while Israel gladly accepted the Jew refugees, the Arab states refused to accept the Palestinian refugees, even during the 20 years Egypt and Jordan had control over Gaza and the west bank, including the refugee camps.

  7. I don't know. The thing about Israel is that for obvious reasons it wants to remain a State with Jewish majority. There are historical reasons for this.

  8. the number of refugees i about 2/3 the number of Israelis

    so even if Israel claim to be a democratic state .. they still want to be a Jewish state so sorry

    every one with a brain knows that religion and democracy contradicts each other !

    compensation ... Zero !!!

    Mg were have you been all these years .. oh oh wait fed with propaganda never mind ;(

    your not the first one who thought of this

    when ever there is a peace plan Israel would suggest a really low number even just symbolic number of Palestinians Right Of Return

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