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What's the proper technique for butterfly(working all your shoulder muscles)?

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swimming is my new second sport, i play high lvl rugby and want to know the best workouts for shoulders swim-wise :)

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  1. Hah!! canzhiye ^ my 50 yards fly is 30.02.34  ( :

    Fly is a really good way to build up shoulder muscles. Whilst swimming butterfly you are mean to do 2 fly kicks to each fly arm stroke. Butterfly is swum on the breast, with both arms moving simultaneously. The butterfly kick was developed separately, and it can be known as the "dolphin kick". When starting each butterfly arm stroke your hands must be above your head with you hands either right next to each other (touching) or one hand on top of the other. When you are doing the arm stroke you need to imagine you are drawing a circle around your head (using both hands). Once your hands come level with your shoulders you need to push very hard, down wards and flick your hands out of the water (they would come out of the water just below your back). Once your hands have come our of the water you need to carry them over the top part of your body and your head and stretch them as far as you can so that they enter the water way above your head. Whilst doing each arm stroke you mush not forget to do 2 dolphin kicks, you are better off doing short fast ones instead of huge splashy ones. Your breathing should be regular and with a rhythm, say.... breath once every 2 butterfly arm strokes.

    That was really hard to explain and probably doesn't make any sense at all but... oh well

    Hope I helped.

    Good luck with swimming fly, it's an AMAZING stroke!!!  ( :

    Xo


  2. A lot of the power in butterfly comes from you hips when you do the dolphin kick, and your hips should be up high.  Working on your core muscles is tough to describe a workout for, but I guess working on you kick in the pool doing laps is one way.  Ab workouts would help- try the static exercises, like lying on your back, legs straight with your heels six inches above the ground.  Hold for 15 seconds, and then bring your legs 90 degrees in the air for some seconds...rinse, repeat.  (you should slowly increase the time you hold the heels six inches above as you get stronger)

    As for the arm stroke using all your shoulder muscles isn't very healthy as shoulders most of the time are weak.  During the underwater pull you'd want to put your hands in a diamond shape (hard to explain, sorry) with your elbows outward.  Use your TRICEPS to push all the back to your hips.  Your back muscles should also help a bit.  Using a tricep bar is good, and a lat pull down machine will help improve your back muscles.  Pull-ups can work too.

    There are probably a bunch more details you can find- I'm not exactly an expert butterflyer.

  3. It takes alot of HARD work, help and time to get up to speed with butterfly. If you do it wrong, you could end up doing more harm than good, so find a qualified teacher or join a club to get the best results.

    Also, in swimming there is a common term called 'butterfly shoulder', thankfully I never suffered from this but I know many who did. Take this into consideration if you want to keep your shoulders safe for rugby (even though they are at risk there too!)

    As outlined in other answers, it does give you big shoulders and a great set of abs, but focused land work is also needed for this! Your legs play a big part in providing support for your shoulders, especially for breathing.

    Don't forget the other strokes though!

  4. its kinda hard to explain how to do it in words, so just get someone to show you. Swimming butterfly makes your shoulders ans abs get stronger. Also makes your shoulderws wider.

  5. The butterfly is a great way to do this; however, it's darned hard to explain how to do it in words, lol. If you can, have someone show you.

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