What Century Are We Living In??

Question

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1032410/Church-England-ahead-plans-create-women-bishops-says-senior-clergyman.html

1,300 traditionalists have apparently said they are likely to leave the church over the issue!

What an earth is the problem with letting women become bishops?

All the religous books were written thousands of years ago, when women were not treated as equal to men.

We live in a different society today.

Can anyone explain to me why religion cannot move with the times?

Answer 1

As a lifelong atheist, I don't care personally if they ordinate cane toads, but as a therefore totally impartial observer I would like to say this.

Any religious organisation, whether it be christians, muslims, tree worshippers or whatever, which chooses to deny women any rights as religious dignitaries thereby cuts itself off from the talents of half the human race. This in iself is crass stupidity.

This stance merely reinforces a religion as a male power base which has very little to do with moral or ethical guidance. Islam sees women as second class citizens and mere chattels. Catholicism sees them as baby making machines. Both viewpoints should have no place in a civilised modern society.

Ironically, the early christian church had women priests, and married priests too, it was only when male dominated synods changed the rules that women were pushed into the background.

Answer 2

The " Bible " were stories told by nomads women were chattels, although centuries later the sufferegettes made a huge difference to womens rights but women will always be, in the churches eyes, chattles.

Answer 3

Women can't bash their bishop.....

Answer 4

The church is stuck in the 15thC,now get back on that fire wench,,

Yeah I know the church is very stuffy,after they managed to demonise women over a thousand years they just can`t get it out of their heads that by keeping out half the worlds population is keeping them in the 15thC

Answer 5

We are living in the 21st century. However the church dates back thousands of years, and the traditions have hardly changed. The world around us does change. W use email instead of royal mail we eat what we want instead of surviving on rations, we don't actually have to hunt and kill our food anymore. The church has not change though. They do not baptise people with microchips. Thye have not changed like the outside world has, that is why they do not want a woen bishops.

Personally i am a bit of a femminist, but i agree with the 1300 that women should not be bishops. Weve got to have some tradition to our lives, the church is somewhere that has not become modern and i would like it to stay that way.

Answer 6

Thats the whole point of religion. Its a belief, not just something you can change.

Answer 7

I'm not sure you understand religion.  If you believe the rules of your religion were set by God then you don't change them to conform with the times.

Answer 8

They will tell you this is what the problem is:

1 Corinthians 11

3Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.

1 Timothy 2:

11A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. 13For Adam was formed first, then Eve.

They are wrong in my opinion.  Equality legislation trumps millenia-old goat herder ramblings in my book.

Not quite sure why they take some bits of the bible literally and not other bits.  Maybe a Christian here can tell me.

Answer 9

Women ! give em a inch and they want a mile, its less than a hundred years since we let them vote and now they want to run everything.

Answer 10

all you need to know is to love Jesus and God and to love one another and know that it will all end soon

easy huh?

what is your most important teaching? Jesus answered, to love one another,  why can't we all do that, then the world would be fine,  and don't even try to argue that point

and and for the issue of women bishops, i don't think they will do any worse than the men, i think all churches are wrong anyway, maybe women can fix it, i doubt it but like i said i don't think it will hurt

Answer 11

If God exists do you think he changes with the times?

Answer 12

If one is a true Christian and accepts the word of the Bible then there should be no female Bishops or Priests.

However, that paragon or hypocrisy, the Christian Church, continually rejects sections of the Bible if they do not suit current thinking. The obvious recent high profile relegation was Leviticus 18.22. If something as fundamental as this can be reversed then why not women bishops, or even archbishops?

This approach by the Christian Church shows it not to be a credible religion but more like a club or political party, ready to change its spots in order to maintain its membership.

Islam may have numerous faults but at it does not have a fickle God who changes his mind to suit his audience.

Answer 13

How sad,but how real.I don´t thing a religion Update exists.

Answer 14

Bloody h**l Jo ...you feeling O.K?LOL!

Nah..great Q which I agree , it is lunacy. I have had verbal diarrhoea on here  today so I will just leave it at that!

Answer 15

Sadly you are right. And no, religions cannot move with the times. They are institutionalised and stiff.

As a believer it is best for you to meet Christ in your own life

and within your own experience.

Answer 16

we are in the 21st century.Everything has changed since women were allowed to vote and go certain places.I think that if women have an equal share of the top jobs,we wouldn't have so many problems facing the country today.

Answer 17

Religion has changed a little by allowing women to enter the church, it's just the usual problem of men wanting to keep the top jobs for themselves. The same problem in the work force