What REAL return can you expect by investing in the stock market?

Question

Say I invest $50,000 in the stock market for the long term. I don't ever want to lose that principal, but I want it to grow as much as possible.

Using the most tried-and true, proven, reliable stock market investment strategy or strategies, what net return -- after taxes -- can I expect to earn?

Answer 1

I´ve been investing for more than 20 years and trading for almost 14, and I can tell you that if you want to make BIG and FAST profits, I recommend you trading rather than investing, trading can help you to go from rags to rich.

If you are investing, you must have already achieved some degree of financial success, long term stock investing and FOREX can help you to diversify your money and become much richer than you are today.

My experiences as a Nasdaq Market Maker, Head trader of several brokerage firms, and currently as a professional trader and private hedge fund manager, I can suggest you that:

We trade because we want quick, short term profits on a consistent basis. We want to cash flow the market. Milk it like a cow.

Make consistent, small, short term gains rather than trying to hit a home run on every trade. Don't ever forget that.

Don't marry a stock, marry the idea of making money trading stocks. That's the only way to do it.

For me "All stocks are equally worthless”

I don't hold on to any illusion that the stock market will continue to go up and provide a nice retirement for me.

I could care less which way the market goes. It's irrelevant to me if the market goes higher, crashes or moves sideways for the next 50 years. I really could care less. Stocks are just four letters with two prices next to them that I use to make a living trading.

Trade ONLY when you have a clear, easy and identifiable advantage, because without a CLEAR EDGE your odds of success are NO better than a flip of a coin… That´s why so many new traders (and investors) lose money.

Take a look at any daily chart of any index or stock and you'll probably see the most volatility and the biggest opportunity for profit during the first Hour of the stock market's opening.

The popular thinking and conventional wisdom is that you should wait about an hour before you start trading.

But if you do, you'll miss the big, fast moves that stocks make as all the amateurs let their emotions out through their online accounts, usually right after they read some news headline or hear Maria Bartiromo go off about a stock on CNBC.

It's easy to see why trading the open is the market's prime time for profiting from other online traders.

The market's open is very volatile - that is the perfect environment for LARGE, FAST profits.

Learn to trade as a professional Market Maker, not as an emotionally driven amateur trader or investor with few thousand dollars in an account at Etrade.

There isn't any other time during the day or any stock you can invest in, that can make you 1, 2, 3, 5, 7 or more points in minutes OTHER than during the first hour the stock market is open, that means: if you are buying or selling short a 1000 shares per transaction, you´ll make $1000,$2000,$3000,$5000 or $7000 Usd "IN MINUTES !!!" not in a day, not in a week, not in a month or in a year, in less than 60 minutes... That's why I love trading the open so much.

I trade only when I have an edge and that means "only the first hour the market is open".

If you are a beginning trader, you can give yourself an unfair advantage in the market trading this way.

I can carry on for hours on how to make money trading online, but if you ask me:

"What is your best advise?

I will say:

Give yourself a BIG favor and go to this "Top Secret" site and learn how to get by yourself the BEST stocks that will make the largest and fastest day trading profits you´ve ever seen.

www.onehourtrading.com

After you review this site you won´t need any system, strategy, book, software, guru or mentor to tell you what to do, you will be able to profit HUGE every day.

Besides, you´ll learn:

• The right amount of money to start trading…

• The best Online broker out there…

• Learn how to enter and exit a trade in seconds making Huge profits…

• Make more money than most day traders simply by trading one hour a day!!!

• How to reduce stress, limit risk and stay disciplined like a Pro.

• The 4 basic rules you should know, that every successful trader know, and amateurs don´t even imagine.

• How to trade against the amateurs and avoid like the plague doing it against the professionals , and why this will put you ONE STEP AHEAD of all traders.

• What causes more devastating trading loses than any other factor... and... How to avoid this pitfall! (Even savvy traders often fall victim to this! )

• Not to spend most of your day in front of a computer dealing with complex charts, software or technical analysis.

• Learn how to read the market´s open to make a huge profit just a few minutes after the opening bell.

All this and a lot more…

Good luck and good trading,

John Fontaine

Answer 2

If you get 11% annually historically, and inflation is about 3% or 4% then prob about 7%.

Answer 3

The short answer is: 11% annually, so $50k over 20 years compounded annually would be $403,123.

However, things are never that simple.  The best balance between good returns and safety is buying a S&P 500 index fund or exchange traded fund (ETF).  These funds are made up of 500 of some of the best stocks you can find.  Most mutual funds (roughly 80%) cannot beat this return. Historically, the S&P average about an 11% return compounded annually but keep in mind this is an average.  Of course you don't want to lose your principal, but the S&P might go down 5%-10% for 5 years in a row (as it has in recent years), before shooting up to 20% gains.  Furthermore, there is no absolutely safe way to invest in stocks and past returns are no guarantee of future ones.  That said, a lot of people make money and stocks and you should definitely check it out.

As for taxes, if you live in the US, you won't pay any taxes until you sell the securities and then you pay the capital gains tax.  Who knows what that will be in 20 years?  If you can, buy the stocks in a Roth IRA and you can pay the taxes up front.

Hope this helps.

I write a blog about stock investing for a military audience and have written some posts about this stuff.  You can check me out here:

http://semperfinance.blogspot.com