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What Would You Say to a Girl who knows "everything"?

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What should I tell a friend who's parents got her a small 3 yr. gelding a few months ago. He JUST turned 3, but since she got hime shes been on his back ALL THE TIME! (she's not a small girl) I am an experianced rider, but she blows off everything I say. She said she was a great Barrel racer a few yrs ago. My mom got curious and asked her mom were she took lessons, and the mother said she had about 2 ENGLISH lessons. And that the huge belt buckle she suposably won at an NBHA, was bought at the Flea Market. I don't talk to her alot anymore, but she calls me and is like "do you know what this is?" and I tell her and she's like....ya I knew that. One day she made me wake up at 6:30 am on the ONE day I can sleep in, to go down to her barn and see this mysterious "bump" om him. I went down and laughed because It was an inflated muscle. I put a small bag of ice on it for 5 minutes and it disappeared. She told me that it was an abcess and she was calling the vet, and getting medicine and blah blah blah. Also, one day he cut himself open and I had to do first aid because I didn't want itto become infected. So I asked were her medical suplys were and she said I don't need any i will buy them if I need them. At this point I screamed at her because she had shampoo, conditiner, hoof shine, and a brush. This was like 3 months into her horse. She won't listen to me because she thinks she knows all, but....post any comments(be nice). Im not stupid I am not a minor, I an a friend who doesn't want this horse to be bowbacked.

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  1. what would i say to her? nothing. . . there isnt anything you can say to people like that, they are going to do what they want to do and they KNOW everything.

    one of my bosses at work KNOWS everything, what do i do to handle her? just agree, and talk to her like i'm assuming she's right (but once i get home everyone i live with knows how i feel bout her hehe)

    good luck.


  2. Explain the issue to her mother. Unless she is keeping her horse at another stable theres not much you can really do. If she is at another stable tell a trainer or the barn manager the entire story and leave it up to them. Riding a 3 yrs old is not bad per say just depends on what she does with him. I rode my three year old every other day but usually did more bending and flexion exercises than anything else at a w/t. Just contact someone who has an obvious authority over her and let them do the talking.  

  3. Is this girl a minor? If so, then you need to call her parents and sit down with them, in their daughter's presence, and explain to them what you have seen. Then give them a choice: either they can take some responsibility here and give their daughter some appropriate help or lessons, or you will report them to the SPCA for animal abuse and cruelty. If they try to protest, or things don't improve, follow through and do it.

    This kid is obviously LYING about both her knowledge level and her ability, and if something isn't done, and done soon, that poor colt of hers is going to wind up permanently lame, or he will become unmanageable and sick because of the way he's being treated. As for this business about the rodeo belt, that's pure BS on this girl's part. ALL the rodeo associations pre-engrave such belts with the rider's name and the year of the competition, BEFORE they are awarded. Her mother isn't helping this situation either, by turning a blind eye to her daughter's behavior, which is only going to lead to serious trouble in the long term.

    Good luck- I hope you can talk some sense into this kid's head. She needs it- and I feel sorry for her poor horse.  

  4. Send your bill to her MOM.

    Detail EVERYTHING she has asked you to do - include travelling time and emergency calls at 6am.

    Include a list of essentials (med kit) that the child needs.

    Suggest some books and a trainer to assist the child before someone gets hurt - perhaps suggest she "continue" with the trainer that got her to win the belt buckle...

    Her Mom may think everything is okay.

    You are kind to help her - but you need to stop as it will be YOU that gets blamed if something happens.

      

  5. just ignore her.

    and if your an adult then why did you let her persuade you to go down there.

    i would tell her the truth if you really want my opinion.

  6. Wow, how old is this girl, I imagine not very old.  I'm surprised this 3 year old hasn't tried to kill her yet!  I can't stand people like this, I had a friend that said she could do barrals (like at full gallop), I took her out to see my horses and she couldn't even sit the trot.  You just are going to have be firm with her, you don't (you might, at least you sound like you don't want to) have the time to be running around looking after HER OWN horse.  If she wakes you up at 6:30, just tell her you can't come out and if it's that big of a deal, call the vet; she will end up spending a s*** load of money on nothing.  I'm going to describe it like the little boy who cried wolf.  If she continues to ask for you to take a look at her horse, and if it continues to be stupid little stuff, why come out?  She will have to learn lessons the hard way, when she finds her horse in the field with a broken leg, you won't come running, after all, it's not even your job.  You need to suggest that she get a first aid kit (and saying that her horse is a three year old, who knows what trouble they could get into) so if something happens she can be prepared.  If you are truly concered about her horse, you need to tak it up with her and her parents.  I don't blame you for being worried about the horse, it's terrible when this kind of stuff happens to horses, espessialy when it's a three year old.  This girl needs to learn the proper care and responsibility of horses, you arn't going to be there all the time to assist with all the c**p she puts her horse through.  Maybe you just need to tell her that you can't help her anymore with silly little things that she should know what to do for.  As I said before, just be firm with her, it's annoying to have to wake up at the butt crack of dawn to help ignorrent people with their horse's inflated muscles when you could be sleeping in for the first time in a week.  You sound like you work hard enough, just lay down the law, next time she tries to get you to come out at 6"30 in the morning, tell her to call a vet if it's that urgent.  Hope this helped!

  7. I don't bother with girls like this.....but it is up to you to "bother" with her in the end.

    I honestly am blunt, so I call people out on these things. What she is trying to do is show you up and have something to brag about that she knows. In a form of jelousey of you?  To prove to people she has something, in reality, has no clue what she is doing.

    I have delt with girls and it is a never ending battle with them when they are like this.  I just pray that this horse doesn't wind up seriously hurt to suffur from the ignorance. All I can do cuz I rather not spend my day unappreciated and gone un noticed. I rather spend my day with my horses and teaching people who want to learn and to learn with me (as no one "knows it all"). Horses are a never ending journey.

    I would advise her to do vet ride alongs and to think about the horse, not her "thinking" when it comes to the horse's health and well being. Any well known horse owner always keeps a stock of first aid and a list of "things to do incase of an emergancy" handy (vet addy's, numbers etc).

    Brought your concerns to her parents who bought her this horse?

    Where is this horse being boarded (stables? Own property?).  

  8. so true that, you can't change others, you can only change yourself. And the 1st response is right too - you should tell the parents of this girl.  Tell whoever bought her the horse.  I know nothing about horses (I'm actually scared of them...but that's only a recently developed fear!) but I do know that they are expensive to care for.  If her mum bought her the horse I'm sure she won't be happy that all the money is being wasted on a spoilt brat that won't take any one else's advise.

    I'd tell her straight out (in the nicest way possible of course): "I'm happy you've got the horse we can go riding together (whatever) but I'm concered about the health of horse.  I know you'd like to think that you know quite a lot, but in all seriousness, I am more experienced in this area.  I'm getting frustrated that...(name the time she woke you up and the muscle thing).  I think we'd have a much happier time if you listened to me.  You don't have to prove anything to me.  I'd be more than happy to teach you about this that and the other, but only if you listen to me and take things on board.  It's only going to be wasting you and your families time and money if you keep going the way you are and the horse isn't going to have the best life it can."

    I mean she sounds like a pretty horrible person and a fool to lie and then get caught out (especially about the belt - that's quite funny, really).  But if nothing else, speak to the parents.  If it's not the friendship you are worried about, you should worry about the health of the horse.

    My old next door neighbour is a very large girl and she had horses.  I always felt sorry for them!

  9. say nothing, she'll learn the hard way

  10. you need to tell her mom that the daughter needs help. or if the girl isn't a minor you should talk to the barn manager

  11. just be like SHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

  12. well i would tell everyone at the barn and her mom that she doesn't know what to do and isn't capable to have a horse yet. and that if it looks like she need help help her and don't get mad. oh and tell them if you have any supplies they are getting rid of or any thing like that just give them to her. and i don't like her attitude but what ever good luck you will need it for her sake.

  13. talk to her mother or the barn owner. if that doesn't work talk to her. if that doesn't work ignore it. was far as her riding him if he's 3 that's perfectly fine. as long as she doesn't jump him for 2-3 more years.

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