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What are the top 3 issues that lead you to believe the U.S. Govt. was complicit with the 9/11 attacks?

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Issues, incidents, events, evidence..... your top 3 reasons for believing our govt. was involved in the actions or the cover up of 9/11.

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  1. 1.)  At least four (some believe as many as nine) of the supposed hijackers  survived 9/11.  Seymour Hersh, The New Yorker 10/1/01: "A former high-level intelligence official told me, "Whatever trail was left was left deliberately--for the F.B.I. to chase.""  

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1...

    2.) From from September 2000 to June 2001, 67 planes steered off course. All 67 times air defense systems worked as they should, and interceptors were launched. (You may remember Payne Stewart--this happened, and he and his crew died in flight.) On September 11th, 2001, when d**k Cheney was enacting his war games, four jet airliners were supposedly hijacked, and all systems that had worked flawlessly 67 times that year, failed.

    The Air Force was running multiple war games on the morning of 9/11 simulating hijackings over the continental United States that included (at least) one "live-fly" exercise as well as simulations that placed "false blips" on FAA radar screens. These war games mirrored the real events of 9/11 to the point of the Air Force running drills involving hijacked aircraft as the 9/11 plot actually unfolded. The war games and terror drills played a critical role in ensuring no Air Force fighter jocks - who had trained their entire lives for this moment - would be able to prevent the attacks from succeeding. These exercises were under d**k Cheney's command/management.

    3.) We've been asked (told) to accept the government/official version of what happened that day without question lest we be accused of sympathizing with terrorist (or possibly even aiding) and/or labeled "conspiracy theorists."  Former top economist in Bush's Department of Labor,  Dr. Morgan Reynolds, "Governments throughout history have provoked or staged attacks on their own people to serve the powers behind the throne ('the money power'), glorify themselves, engage in vast government spending, reward friends, exert domestic control, stimulate the juices of war, annex neighbors and pursue vast geostrategic rearrangements (the global domination project)."

    In 1962 every member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on the "Operation Northwoods" plan to murder Americans in fake "Cuban terrorist attacks." The planned Operation Northwoods murders of ordinary Americans in fake terrorist bombings and the illusion of airliners being shot-down would have involved hundreds of military and intelligence personnel. Yet the existence of Operation Northwoods was successfully kept secret from the American people for forty years until James Bamford revealed it in his book Body of Secrets, published in January 2002.

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    Read the report listed below at the following site: http://pnac.info/RebuildingAmericasDefen...

    (It is chilling. Note the date--one year prior to 9/11.)

    A Report of The Project for the New American Century September 2000, "REBUILDING AMERICA’S DEFENSES Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century."

    After the election of George W. Bush in 2000, a number of PNAC's members or signatories were appointed to key positions within the President's administration:   I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby; Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense; Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense (2001-2005); Elliott Abrams;  Richard Armitage; John R. Bolton, Under-Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs (2001-2005). Vice President, d**k Cheney was also a member.

    **Conspiracy theories? Theories are based on a logical or  reasonable theses that takes known information into account and draws a conclusion based on those known facts. Theories are educated guesses, and conspiracy theories are educated guesses about conspiracies people perceive around them.  There is a large segment of the American population that continues to dismiss any of the verifiable findings of the independent 9/11 research community.  They absolutely  refuse to accept even the most convincing proof because they dare not admit to themselves that they have been lied to by officials in whom they placed their trust.

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  2. 1.  NORAD's lack of response.  Read how quickly Payne Stewart's plane was intercepted.

    http://www.wanttoknow.info/991026dallasm...

    2.  The Illuminati Card Game...this is just plain freaky!!

    http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm

    3.  George Bush remaining in the classroom after the 2nd plane hit.  Why wasn't he whisked out of that school???

    These are just the three I picked today....I could pick three more tomorrow.  The question isn't if they were involved...its, at what level were they involved.  Did they allow it or did they plan it?

  3. im not a us citizen but mine would be...

    The past association with and The speedy evacuation of the bin laden family members residing in the US

    George W lack of surprise and absent response upon hearing the news

    A convenient catalyst for george w. to finish his dad's personal vandetta aginst sadaam

    EDIT:

    The real question is how does this puppet continue to get away with repeated assaults against the american ppl along with  the rest of the world and what do we do about it

  4. 1.  Lack of a Real Investigation.

    Several of the so-called hijackers have been found alive, but yet the FBI has not changed their list of suspects.  

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1...

    http://911review.org/Wget/members.fortun...

    And the FBI can't link Bin Laden to 9/11.  So why are they not trying to find who is REALLY responsible for the attacks?  Unless they KNOW and they're trying to cover-up.   It's just fishy.

    2.  The governments past... leads me to distrust them.  

    Like for example.. the plans the government officials had in the 1960's "Operation Northwoods".. these plans included attacking US Cities and Civilians in order to provoke public support for a war against Cuba.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&...

    The US Government has a long histroy of abusing and even killing US Citizens and Soldiers!  These things they admit to.

    US Governments Radiation Experiments on US Citizens!

    http://www.bethedream.net/Landry_files/H...

    US Government's Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment on Black Men! & US Government's Plutonium Experiments on Citizens

    http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/adrast...

    7000 American soldiers were subjected to testing of biological and chemical weapons

    http://home.earthlink.net/~popfactory/id...

    Government Website detailing human radiation experiments

    http://www.hss.energy.gov/healthsafety/o...

    Staff Report Prepared by senators for the Committee on Veterans' affairs.. of the US Governments experimentations on US Soldiers over a 50 year period.  

    http://www.gulfweb.org/bigdoc/rockrep.cf...

    3.  The EXPERTS who question the Government's 'Official Version'..lends a lot of credibility to the truth movement.  Pilots, Architects, Engineers, and Government Officials question the 'Official Story' based on their own expertise and experience in the fields related to the 9/11 attacks.

    http://patriotsquestion911.com/

    http://www.ae911truth.org/

    http://www.911research.wtc7.net/

  5. There are too many to choose a "top 3".  The question over-simplifies a very complex matter.  

    Breaking it down to three top reasons would be misleading for people who are not informed.

    If I had to answer the question as asked, I would do so only generally (1) the official explanation for failure to prevent the attacks is not believable, (2) the circumstances of the 9-11 investigation clearly show it to be a whitewash, (3) the proven lies of politicians and government officials.

    To provide details would be misleading.  If you ask for the top 300 reasons, that question would be easier to answer.

    Here are a few links.

    Source compilation of evidence for complicity

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info...

    List of "top 500" questions

    http://www.rense.com/general24/t500.htm

    Short list of Red Flags ("Leaps of Faith Required to Accept the Official Story"0

    http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/dece...

    In his film, Mike Ruppert organizes and explains some of the evidence for complicity.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

  6. I'm not able to answer the question as asked. What is horrifying about the issue is: when I first heard the theory I was not overwhelmed with denial. For instance, if I read or heard that Billy Graham/Mother Teresa, etc, murdered someone and bragged about it I would think that was ridiculous and the author was insane. When I heard this theory I thought neither. What has happened to us, our country, our leaders, that so many of us considered the possibility? Our heritage as Americans is to distrust government, read the founding documents to prove this. What in the h**l happened that our distrust turned to suspicion, our suspicion turned to outrage, our outrage turned to apathy. The question a lot of us ask is "what if this is true, what can I do about it"? And there we stop.

  7. Inconsistencies...

    1.  You get one plane bringing down a truly colossal and immensely strong building with tens of thousands of tons of steel and concrete infrastructure - in not one but TWO cases (WTC 1 and 2)... a world first.  

    No building anywhere near as big has ever been downed by aircraft crash / fire (and yes, it has happened before), almost none have fallen down, suddenly it happens twice in one day.

    But a third plane barely makes ANY impact on the Pentagon in comparison... no massive exploding fireball, no tons of twisted metal wreckage, burned bodies or luggage, NO catastrophic building collapse, NO massive impact area, NO signs of engines, wings or a tail plane weighing tens of tons and travelling at 200+ miles an hour impacting the Pentagon building itself AT ALL... isn't that amazing.  What happened to the laws of physics here?!

    How can anyone possibly reconcile these two incidents? - the same scenario exactly but two ENTIRELY different results... why didn't the Pentagon damage remotely compare to WTC, when it is quite clearly a smaller and weaker structure than the other buildings?

    2.  WTC 7 - even IF we do assume it was incredibly heavily damaged by debris from WTC 1 and 2 - how come it fell at 'freefall' speed (look up that phrase - it means something falling through air, with ZERO structural integrity, i.e. absolutely nothing but air to slow it's descent)... how can you POSSIBLY explain that?  Why didn't the immensely strong steel core or concrete, which photos show as being almost perfectly intact, slow the fall - AT ALL?  

    And why, if WTC7 and the other buildings were hit from one side, did they all fall down in a PERFECTLY straight line and not at an angle as the laws of common sense and physics dictate? - every kid playing with a bucket and spade knows it can't work like that!

    3.  9 of 23 'suicide' hijackers have been subsequently found alive.  This does tend to blow a hole in the official 'story' which 'explains' how 911 was supposed to happen.  In fact it was reported on the BBC, Channel 4, and MANY major newspapers in the UK and around the world.  

    If it wasn't them, and if they are alive they COULDN'T possibly have done it, then who did do this terrible act?

    So, the official story is not just plain nonsense, it is almost laughably stupid and thoroughly inconsistent... it IS a lie.

    There are MANY serious issues but I have never once heard these three explained with any degree of sense according to the official version... not once.

    The problem is, once you have ONE major flaw in the official story that CAN'T be reasonably explained, you have to start to question the entire thing!!

  8. I suppose that all the books in the world could not contain all the reasons

    The things I found suspicious from the start were:

    1. The way the buildings came down. For that to be anything but a controlled demolition would mean the terrorist had to be the most fortuitous group of rascals that ever lived. It was just too unreal, too reminiscent, and too unlikely. Yet we had to accept it because the alternative, that it was planned by our own government leaders, was too devastating to accept.

    2. Bush's reaction or lack of. There was no shock, no surprise when Andy Card whispered in his ear that America was under attack. We were told he didn't want to upset the children by saying "sorry kids, gotta go." But it was the job of the secret service to whisk him out of there, whether he wanted to leave or not. How did he know and how did they know their boss was in no danger?

    3. To navigate a boeing just above ground level at 500 miles an hour into the Pentagon without hitting any trees or poles or buildings along the way was a feat that seemed impossible for an amateur pilot.

    Those were my first thoughts. Of course I was a conspiracy skeptic and did not want to believe those things about my own government and certainly not our republican leadership.

    It actually took the Terri Schaivo case to open my eyes into political hypocrisy. I knew then  that if all these republican judges could sentence an innocent person to death by stravation, then republican moral pretensions were a farce and  no detestable thing was beneath them or their Republican President.

  9. 1 The Bush's are Oil Tycoon and Saudis their Business Partners Helped 9/11 Hijackers

    2 They purposely Ignored the 9/11 Commission's Report so they don't lose their jobs.

    3 Because they allowed the 9/11 Hijackers to overstay their Visa's in the U.S. and allow them to destroy government and Private Material.

    That's what I believe to be true

  10. I dont believe the US was involved in any of it... if you do , that your problem not mine!!

    US was not the only country to lose people in that so why would we intentionally do that and risk  other countries ( besides the ones now) retaliating?????

  11. TOP 3 REASONS WHY THE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS ARE WHACKO

    1.    WHY THE "MELTED STEEL" ARGUMENTS ARE NONSENSE.

    There is no "law of conservation of temperature," only energy need be conserved.  A common error is in assuming that the temperature of the WTC fire was limited to the temperature of the combustibles involved.

    The law of conservation of energy is embodied in the first law of thermodynamics. One formulation of this law is the energy formulation of Reynold's Transport Theorem which can be simply stated:

    The Temperature of a Volume = (The heat energy added minis the heat energy lost) multiplied by a constant

    As the fire burns, more heat energy is added. If that heat energy has no place to go, regardless of the temperature of that heat energy, that heat energy will be added to the control volume and the temperature of that control volume will increase.

    The temperature of a specific volume is limited only by the dynamics that add and remove heat energy, NOT by the temperature of the inputted heat. In other words, the heat generated by a sufficient amount of any burning combustible, if properly channeled, is capable of melting steel.

    2.  WHY THE WTC COLLAPSE WAS QUICK, DOWNWARD, AND DID NOT VIOLATE THE LAWS OF PHYSICS

    Unlike the design of most skyscrapers, the vertical strength of the WTC came from its exterior shell. The exterior shell of the building was comprised of interlocking pre-fabricated modular pieces.  These modular plates were made up of three of the exterior columns, each three stories tall, connected together by spandrel plates. These modular pieces that comprised the external walls of the building provided substantially all of the building's vertical strength.  To keep these girders vertically aligned, horizontal floor trusses connected the horizontal stress and strain of modular piece with the surrounding modulars, and prevented them from snapping their joints and slipping.

    On 9/11, the high temperatures of the fire caused excessive strain on the floor trusses and they collapsed. Steel does not need to melt in order to collapse. Temperatures associated with burning jet fuel are sufficiently high to lower the tensile strength to a point of catastrophic failure.

    When the internal floor trusses became unable to provide horizontal support for the exterior shell, girders became misaligned causing joints to pop. The modular pieces then slid downwards to the ground in a predictable telescoping fashion. Towers 1 and 2 collapsed quickly because, unlike the implosions of buildings that you watch on TV, they did not have internal support.

    3.  THE TOP REASON:   Everybody saw the planes hit the buildings with their own eyes.   The world knows what happened.    This isn't complex.   The reality of the situation is fairly obvious.  This conspiracy theory is so far aflung from reality that if it is making sense to you, then you are probably mentally ill.

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